Clarification of Revelation 12, September 2017 celestial sign does not mark midtrib

There's too much hype and misinformation out there regarding the upcoming celestial configuration coming on September 23, 2017 as possibly a direct display of Revelation chapter 12.

Although none of us know the actual future  date the world will experience the events of Revelation chapter 12, we do know by Scripture this will be at the mid-point of the seven-year period of Daniel's70th week,  otherwise known as the tribulation period  also known as the time of Jacobs Trouble. 

Since we're still here today on this date in history, March 24, 2016 and the Tribulation has yet to start, and we know by Scripture the mid point of the tribulation period is exactly 3.5 years (7 years is the entire length), it is not possible that the celestial signs of September 23, 2017 are the exact markers of the midpoint, appearing on the exact time of the events. But, rather will be displayed in the heavens as most probably a preview of what's coming.  The date of  September 23, 2017 will mist probably happen during the tribulation period as an important sign to the tribulation saints.

Therefore, I suspect that it's highly possible the Tribulation period will begin before September 2017.  This tells the Saints, those of us who are saved and belong to God through the redemptive work of the cross of Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior, our redemption by the Rapture is nigh upon us, coming any day now, here shortly. AMEN! Hallelujah! Maranatha! Praise God!

Below is a wonderful work by Pastor David Guzik,  that is an excellent commentary of Revelation 12 :

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Revelation 12 - The Woman, the Child, and Dragon

http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/6612.htm

©2013 David Guzik - No distribution beyond personal use without permission

 

A. The woman.

 

1. (1) The woman is described in celestial images.

 

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

 

a. Now a great sign appeared: This is the first of seven signs that John relates, and is described as agreat sign (mega semeion). In Revelation chapters 12, 13, and 14 the main figures of the Great Tribulation are described, and this great signintroduces the first of the seven:

 

·        The woman, representing Israel

·        The dragon, representing Satan

·        The man-child, referring to Jesus

·        The angel Michael, head of the angelic host

·        The offspring of the woman, representing Gentiles who come to faith in the Tribulation

·        The beast out of the sea, representing the antichrist

·        The beast out of the earth, representing the false prophet who promotes the antichrist

 

b. A woman clothed with the sun: Because John plainly said this is a sign, we don't expect this woman to appear literally on the earth. God will use this sign to communicate something to John and to us. Women often represent religious systems in Revelation.

 

·        Jezebel is associated with a religious system promoting false teaching (Revelation 2:20)

·        The Great Harlot is associated with false religion (Revelation 17:2)

·        The Bride is associated with the church (Revelation 19:7-8)

 

c. A woman clothed with the sun: This woman has been associated with many different religious ideas. Roman Catholics claim this woman is Mary, pictured as the "Queen of Heaven." Mary Baker Eddy (the founder of Christian Science) said she was this woman.

 

i. It is common in Roman Catholic art to represent Mary as standing on a crescent moon with twelve stars around her head.

 

d. A woman clothed with the sun: Scripturally, thiswoman clothed with the sun should be identified with Israel, according to Joseph's dream (Genesis 37:9-11). In that dream, the sun represented Jacob, the moon represented Joseph's mother Rachel, and the eleven stars were the sons of Israel which bowed down to Joseph. In this sign with twelve stars, Joseph is now among the other tribes of Israel.

 

i. In other Old Testament passages, Israel (or Zion or Jerusalem) is often represented as a woman (Isaiah 54:1-6, Jeremiah 3:20, Ezekiel 16:8-14, and Hosea 2:19-20).

 

2. (2) The woman gives birth.

 

Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

 

a. Being with child: Later in the chapter, it is clear that this child born of Israel is Jesus (She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron, Revelation 12:5).

 

b. She cried out in labor and in pain to give birth: The pain described refers to the travail of Israel at the time of Jesus' birth (under Roman occupation and oppression).

 

B. The dragon.

 

1. (3) A fearful, powerful dragon appears.

 

And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.

 

a. Another sign appeared in heaven: Again, we are reminded that this is a sign. The creature here was not literally a great, fiery red dragon, but the dragon represented his nature and character.

 

i. His description "symbolically suggests his fierce power and murderous nature . . . a picture of the fullness of evil in all its hideous strength." (Johnson)

 

b. Seven diadems on his heads: This dragon had great power (seven heads and ten horns) and claimed royal authority (seven diadems). The crowns represent his presumptive claims of royal authority against the true King. He wants to be considered a king.

 

i. "From the similar description given in 13:1 and the parallel references in Daniel 7:7-8, 2, it is clear that the revived Roman Empire is in view . . . The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8, who is to be identified with the world ruler of the great tribulation who reigns over the revived Roman Empire." (Walvoord)

 

2. (4) The dragon looks to the earth.

 

His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born.

 

a. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven: Many believe this describes one-third of the angelic host in league with Satan (his angels of Revelation 12:9). This army of angelic beings in league with Satan makes up the world of demonic spirits.

 

i. "God never made an evil being; but He made angels, principalities, and powers capacitated for mighty joys and distinctions in His glorious domain, yet with free will, implied in the very creation of moral beings, which they could exercise for their everlasting weal or woe. Many have remained steadfast, to wit, 'Michael and his angels.' But some abode not in the truth, but revolted against the rule of Heaven, and became unchanging enemies of God and His Kingdom." (Seiss)

 

b. To devour her Child as soon as it was born: The attempt to devour her Child was initially fulfilled by Herod's attempts to kill Jesus as a child (Matthew 2:16-18). It was also fulfilled throughout Jesus' life as Satan attacked Him (John 8:58 and Mark 4:35-41).

 

C. The child.

 

1. (5) Jesus' ministry is described by its earthly beginning and end.

 

She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.

 

a. A male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: Clearly, this refers to Jesus Christ, the Messiah. He rules the world with a rod of iron(Psalm 2 and Revelation 19:15).

 

b. She bore a male Child: This refers to Jesus' birth.Rule all nations with a rod of iron refers to the triumphant return of Jesus. By stating the starting point and ending point of Jesus' earthly work, John alluded to all that stood in between.

 

i. "After a conflict with the Prince of this world, who came and tried Him, but found nothing in Him, the Son of the woman was taken up to heaven and sat on the right hand of God. Words can hardly be plainer than these." (Alford)

 

c. A male Child: This is obviously Jesus. This means that the woman of Revelation 12:1 cannot be the church, because Jesus "gives birth" to the church, not the other way around. The woman must therefore either be Mary or Israel, the only two "women" who could have "given birth" to Jesus. The rest of Revelation 12 will demonstrate that this woman is Israel, not Mary.

 

2. (6) The woman in the wilderness.

 

Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

 

a. Then the woman fled into the wilderness: Persecuted by the dragon, the woman is protected by God in a prepared place for one thousand two hundred and sixty days

 

i. This helps us to understand with certainty that the woman is Israel and not Mary. How could Mary possibly flee into the wilderness in this way?

 

b. One thousand two hundred and sixty days: This reference to a three and one-half year period connects these events with the final seven years of the Daniel 9 prophecy. Since Revelation 12:5 describes the ascension of Jesus, and Revelation 12:6 describes yet-to-occur events in the 70th week of Daniel, between these two verses lies hundreds of years (our current period). This obvious "near-far" break in time is typical of prophecy. Daniel's seventy week prophecy has such a break (Daniel 9:24-27).

 

c. Into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God: Some believe this place in thewilderness is the rock city of Petra, south of the Dead Sea. Reportedly, Christian businessmen have stocked the place with food and evangelistic tracts written in Hebrew.

 

d. Prepared in the wilderness: Prepared uses the same ancient Greek word Jesus used in I go to prepare a place for you (John 14:2-3). This demonstrates that God's careful planning works on earth as well as in heaven.

 

D. Conflict in heaven.

 

1. (7-8) War between Michael and the dragon.

 

And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.

 

a. War broke out in heaven: At the mid-point of the great tribulation, God will turn the tide against Satan - first in heaven, then on earth. A battle will take place that will deny Satan access to heaven.

 

b. Michael and his angels: Some individuals and groups (such as the Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses) insist on saying that Michaelis actually Jesus. This is wrong on every count.

 

i. Some say Michael must be Jesus, because he has his angels. But if Satan - a fallen angelic being - has his angels (Revelation 12:7), can't Michael - an unfallen angelic being - have his angels?

 

ii. Some say Michael must be Jesus, because his name means One like God. But if this were a title of Jesus, it could argue against His deity, not for it - because it would say that Jesus is like God, but notGod. "There is also an unquestionable Godlikeness in all holy beings, which must be very exalted in those preeminent among the ministers of the throne." (Seiss)

 

iii. Some say Michael must be Jesus, because he is called the archangel (Jude 9), which means leader or prince among the angels, and they say that only Jesus is the leader of the angels. But we know from Daniel 10:13, 10:20 and 10:21 that Michael is one angelic prince among others. Also, Paul refers to an archangel in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 in a way that presupposes other archangels.

 

iv. Some say that Michael must be Jesus, because Paul says that at the rapture, the Lord will call His people with the voice of an archangel (1 Thessalonians 4:16). But Jesus can use an angel to call out for His people without being that angel, just as much as God can use a trumpet to sound out a call without being the trumpet.

 

v. Jude 9 says that Michael would not rebuke or accuse Satan on His own authority, but only say "The Lord rebuke you." This shows that Michael isn't Jesus, because Jesus often rebuked Satan and demons in His own authority (Matthew 17:18, Mark 1:25, 9:25, Luke 4:8, 4:35).

 

vi. "Michael is not to be identified with Christ, any more than any other of the great angels in this Book. Such identification here would confuse hopelessly the actors in this heavenly scene." (Alford)

 

c. Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought: This is a dramatic scene of battle between good angels and bad angels.; faithful angels and fallen angels.

 

i. Who fights in this battle? This is truly a battle between equals. The dragon represents Satan (Revelation 12:9), and Satan is not the counterpart of God - God has no counterpart. If anyone, Satan is the counterpart of Michael, who seems to be the chief angel opposite this chief of fallen angels.

 

ii. Why is the battle fought? In a previous scene of conflict between Michael and Satan (Jude 9), Satan wanted to prevent the resurrection and glorification of Moses, because he knew God had plans for the resurrected and glorified Moses (Luke 9:30-31). Here is another occasion where Satan wants to get in the way of God's plan for the end-times.

 

iii. When is this battle fought? This battle occurs at the mid-point of the seven-year period, as described by Daniel. At that time Michael shall stand up, the great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered. (Daniel 12:1)

 

iv. How is this battle fought? We know this is a real fight; but is it a material or a spiritual battle? Our battle with Satan and his demons is spiritual, fought on the battleground of truth and deception, of fear and faith (Ephesians 6:12). In regard to material attacks against the believer, Satan and his demons were disarmed at the cross (Colossians 2:15). Among angels, it is possible that there is amaterial battle to be fought in a way we can only imagine. In his classic work Paradise Lost, the great poet Milton imagined this battle:

 

Michael bid sound

Th' archangel trumpet: through the vast of heaven

It sounded, and the faithful armies run

Hosanna to the Highest: nor stood at gaze

The adverse legions, nor less hideous joined

The horrid shock: now storming fury rose,

And clamour such as heard in heaven till now

Was never; arms on armour clashing brayed

Horrible discord, and the madding wheels

Of brazen chariots raged; dire was the noise

Of conflict; overhead the dismal hiss

Of fiery darts in flaming volleys flew,

And flying vaulted either host with fire:

So under fiery cope together rushed

Both battles main, with ruinous assault

And inextinguishable rage; all heaven

Resounded, and had earth been then, all earth

Had to her centre shook.

 

d. Nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer: This shows us that up until this happens (at the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week), Satan does have access to heaven, where he accuses God's people before the throne (Job 1:6-12, Revelation 12:10).

 

i. It troubles some to think that Satan has access to heaven, because of the mistaken teaching that God can allow nothing unholy in His presence. But the Bible clearly says that while Satan appears on earth (Luke 4:1-13), and describes him as the prince of the power of the air (Ephesians 2:2), it also says that Satan has access to heaven, where he accuses God's people before the throne (Job 1:6-12).

 

2. (9) Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven.

 

So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

a. So the great dragon was cast out: This single verse uses many different titles for our spiritual enemy, including Dragon, serpent of old, the Devil,Satan, and he who deceives the whole world. These titles describe Satan as vicious, an accuser, an adversary, and a deceiver.

 

i. Walvoord on the Devil: "The title 'Devil' is from the Greek diabolos, from the verb diaballo, which has the meaning of 'defaming' or 'slandering.' He is the master accuser of the brethren."

 

b. He was cast to the earth: The Bible describes four different falls of Satan. Revelation 12:9 describes the second of these four falls.

 

·        From glorified to profane (Ezekiel 28:14-16)

·        From having access to heaven (Job 1:12, 1 Kings 22:21, Zechariah 3:1) to restriction to the earth (Revelation 12)

·        From the earth to bondage in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Revelation 20)

·        From the pit to the lake of fire (Revelation 20)

 

i. In Luke 10:18, Jesus said "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." This refers either to the first fall of Satan (from glorified to profane), or it is a prophetic look ahead to the second fall at the mid-point of the seven year tribulation period.

 

c. His angels were cast out with him: This indicates that demonic spirits are indeed fallen angels, those who joined with Satan in His rebellion against God. These are "his angels."

 

i. These angels are also the same as the third of the stars of heaven described in Revelation 12:4. Since Satan only drew a third of the stars of heaven, it means that two-thirds of the angels remained faithful to God. It's comforting to know that faithful angels outnumber fallen angels two to one.

 

3. (10-12) A joyful declaration in heaven.

 

Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."

 

a. I heard a loud voice saying: Whoever is behind this loud voice, it is some representative of redeemed humanity - not an angel or God - because the voice speaks of the accuser of our brethren.

 

b. The accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down: Satan's work of accusing only ends here, when he is cast out from his access to heaven. Today, we have (and need) an intercessor and advocate (Hebrews 7:25, and 1 John 2:1).

 

c. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death: This tells us three keys to the saint's victory over Satan.

 

d. They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb: Theblood overcomes Satan's accusations. Those accusations mean nothing against us because Jesus has already paid the penalty our sins deserved. We may be even worse than Satan's accusations, but we are still made righteous by the work of Jesus on the cross (Ephesians 1:7, Colossians 1:14, and Hebrews 9:14).

 

i. Although, it is important to say that we should not regard the blood of Jesus in a superstitious manner. It is not a magical potion, nor is it the literal blood of Jesus, literally applied that saves or cleanses us. If that were so, then His Roman executioners, splattered with His blood, would have been automatically saved, and the actual number of molecules of Jesus' literal blood would limit the number of people who could be saved. The bloodspeaks to us of the real, physical death of Jesus Christ in our place, on our behalf, before God. That literal death in our place, and the literal judgment He bore on our behalf, is what saves us.

 

ii. By the blood emphasizes the death of Jesus. He did not only suffer, He died. Of the Lambemphasizes the substitutionary work of His death, because the Passover Lamb died as a substitutefor others.

 

iii. The blood of Jesus heals our troubled conscience, because we know that by His death our sin is atoned for (Hebrews 9:14). But to onlyuse the blood of Jesus in that way is selfish. We should be like "these saints used the doctrine of atonement not as a pillow to rest their weariness, but as a weapon to subdue their sin." (Spurgeon)

 

iv. How does the blood of the Lamb conquer Satan in the life of the believer? How does the death of Jesus on the cross as our substitute bring us victory?

 

v. It works first because His victory is our victory. "First, you are to regard Satan this day as being already literally and truly overcome through the death of the Lord Jesus. Satan is already a vanquished enemy. By faith grasp your Lord's victory as your own, since he triumphed in your nature and on your behalf . . . Come, my soul, thou hast conquered Satan by thy Lord's victory. Wilt thou not be brave enough to fight a vanquished foe, and trample down the enemy whom thy Lord has already thrust down? Thou needest not be afraid, but say, 'Thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.' " (Spurgeon)

 

vi. It works because the work of Jesus on the cross for us is the ultimate demonstration of God's love (Romans 5:8), and a constant remembrance of the blood of the Lamb assures us that every fear Satan whispers into our mind is a lie.

 

vii. It works because the death of Jesus on the cross as our substitute reveals the true nature of sin, and this makes us want to avoid sin. "Satan makes sin seem pleasurable, but the cross reveals its bitterness. If Jesus died because of sin, men begin to see that sin must be a murderous thing." (Spurgeon)

 

viii. It works because the death of Jesus on the cross as our substitute purchases us as God's personal property, and this makes us want to live unto God. "If anything can make a man holy it is a firm faith in the atoning sacrifice. When a man knows that Jesus died for him, he feels that he is not his own, but bought with a price, and therefore he must live unto him that died for him and rose again." (Spurgeon)

 

ix. Therefore, we use the blood of the Lamb in spiritual warfare - not as a Christian "abracadabra," as if chanting "The blood of Jesus, the blood of Jesus" could keep Satan away like garlic is said to keep away vampires. Rather, our understanding, ourapprehension, our focus - may I say our obsessionwith the death of Jesus on the cross as our substitute wins the battle.

 

x. "The precious blood of Jesus is not meant for us merely to admire and exhibit. We must not be content to talk about it, and extol it, and do nothing with it; but we are to use it in the great crusade against unholiness and unrighteousness, till it is said of us, 'They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb.' This precious blood is to be used for overcoming, and consequently for holy warfare. We dishonor it if we do not use it to that end . . . The dog of hell knows the dread name which makes him lie down: we must confront him with the authority, and specially with the atonement of the Lamb of God." (Spurgeon)

 

e. They overcame him . . . by the word of their testimony: The word of their testimony overcomes Satan's deception. Knowing and remembering the work of God in their life protects them against Satan's deceptions. As faithful witnesses, they have a testimony to bear - and because they know what they have seen and heard and experienced from God, they cannot be deceived by Satan's lies telling them it isn't true (as the testimony of the man born blind in John 9:25).

 

f. They overcame him . . . they did not love their lives to the death: Loving not their lives overcomes Satan's violence. If they do not cling to their own earthly lives, then there really is no threat Satan can bring against them. If they believe to live is Christ, and to die is gain (Philippians 1:21), then how can Satan's violence against them be effective?

 

Comments

  1. Interesting article. However, I would suggest that the author not base their opinion of the Rev. 12 sign on his or her presuppositions. I'm not trying to be harsh, but in love, I would ask the author to do a better exegetical study and use a Greek text this time. You make some good points but your presuppositions are getting in the way of a proper interpretation of your proof text. For for starters the Greek word for man in the third verse I believe it is for a man-child is the Greek word Arsen. Without writing a book, if you look at the Greek words in this text you will see that the description in the Greek is a masculine neuter which signifies a group of people. The woman obviously is the church. In the birthing well you figure that part out. It's not that hard to see. It is not the middle of the tribulation. It is the rapture of the church and the start of the tribulation period but thank you for your try. I teach this stuff all the time. I just would hope that you would take a little bit better effort in using the ancient language better. May God bless you. And I hope that what I have brought up, all those simple, might bring you on a better journey in search of what the text really says. Bless you yes

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  2. Thank you very much Tony. Much learned here.

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