Let's talk about Revelation Chapter 12 King James Bible
Revelation 12:5
“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”
King James Version (KJV)
The Sacred Cow of Revelation 12
CLAIM: Using astronomy is the same as astrology and is wicked witchcraft. I have detailed over and over again in the study links whereby God describes the constellations stars and planets. See the links and notes below.
This one verse (5) of Revelation Chapter 12 and the entire chapter for that matter has been extremely controversial over the years.
LIGHTENING ROD.
Revelation 12 ranks as the 5th most controversial work I've done that has stirred up so much hatred, strife among so called Christians.
I'm basing this on the number of emails and comments. Just to give the reader and viewer an idea here's a breakdown of topics ranked from the hightest - most hated - to least out of the top 7 topics:
1. King James ONLY.
2. The Godhead vs Trinity
3. The Mystery of the Church Exposing Hyper Dispensationalists
4. Exposing Zionism and their false teachers like Amir Tsarfati and John MacArthur Andy Woods, Joel Rosenberg, Jack Hibbs, etc.
5. Revelation 12
6. The Pretribulation Rapture
7. The Gospel
Personally, I have had at least 3 contentious encounters with other Christians on this matter. One the individual who is a strong believer in the Rapture of the Church went into a rage. His wife called me back and apologized, stunned that a simple disagreement would cause so much dissention and strife.
This is when I realized there was a spirit behind this to keep the status quo of the false teaching that the child is Jesus Christ and this had "nothing to do with the Church" again playing into the hands of the Hyper-Dispensationalists.
Rightly Dividing The Word of Truth is NOT of the HYPER Dividers
Rightly DIVIDING The Abrahamic Covenant, The Phenomenal FOUNDATI0N of the MYSTERY
Revelation 1:9 and the Matthew 13 Kingdom Parables
The Church of Laodicea does NOT know The Mystery given to Paul from Jesus
The Armies of Heaven - The Wedding Supper of the Lamb - One in Israel
Anytime over the years whenever I get "extreme" push back I find the subject to be a "stronghold" of the enemy - a sacred cow = RELIGION vs DOCTRINE.
Do your own research and you'll find the vast majority of scholars claim this scripture refers to Jesus Christ as the child. That this scripture has nothing to do with the Rapture but only a reference to Israel and Jesus Christ and of course no reference to the Jewish Remnant or the Tribulation Saints.
I received the following question on Quora:
What does Revelation 12:1-6 mean in the Bible?
Rapture watch Signs in the Heavens Revelation 12:5 September 2017
The Church of Philadelphia will be Raptured, Receive Crowns and Reign with Christ. Which Church do you belong?
Time to take a hard look at 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3, 7 KJV #Rapture #AntiChrist #EndTimes
These verses in the King James Bible describe the following events:
Context of Revelation 12:
Most important here is we must understand that Revelation Chapter 12 is stop or parenthetical pause from the sequence of chronilogical events. This is also known as a literary interlude or a flashback. We know there are about 5 of these occurences in the Book of Revelation:
- Instances where there are flashbacks or literary interludes:
Revelation 7: This chapter serves as an interlude between the sixth and seventh seals, presenting a vision of the 144,000 sealed servants of God and a great multitude in white robes.
Revelation 10-11: Here, we have another interlude between the sixth and seventh trumpets. This section includes the appearance of a mighty angel with a little book and the account of the two witnesses.
Revelation 12: This chapter is often seen as a flashback. It describes the vision of the woman and the dragon, recounting events from the past, such as the war in heaven and the birth of the male child WHICH I DESCRIBE HERE...
Revelation 13: This chapter, though continuing from Chapter 12, also provides background information on the two beasts (one from the sea and one from the earth), which is crucial for understanding later events.
Revelation 17-18: These chapters serve as a detailed interlude focusing on the judgment of Babylon the Great, the mother of prostitutes and abominations of the earth.
Revelation 20: This chapter includes a flashback to the binding of Satan for a thousand years before moving forward to the final judgment and the new heaven and new earth.
Of course, we understand that in Chapter 12 we are in the Middle of the 7 YEAR Tribulation as we understand that the Book of Revelation is *mostly* in a chronologic sequence of events beginning with the 7 SEAL judgments (Revelation Chapter 6), followed by the 7 Trumpet Judgements (Revelation 8-11) and concluding with the final 7 Bowl Judgments (Revelation 16).
Note: There are 2 false teachings out there today regarding the events of the Tribulation. One being that all of the 21 Judgments take place at the same time and that the Tribulation is only 3.5 years long and not 7. I address this in these studies. I love the part in the second study whereby the man claimed God personally showed him how all the events lined up in Revelation.
Reproving Rapture Saint Eric Low YOUTUBER
The 2 Witnesses and their timeline Revelation 11:3-12 KJV
Daniel 9:27 "he" is the AC and NOT Jesus Christ:
Who is "He" in Daniel 9:27 King James Bible?
Revelation 12 has what is known as a literary interlude that reflects events that take place at the beginning of the Tribulation back in Revelation 4 and 5 the Rapture of the Church.
We also know Revelation 12 brings the reader into the middle of the Tribulation because of the events Revelation 12 describes primarily with the WOMAN fleeing persecution - Revelation 12:13-17 KJB (The woman is Israel = The Jewish Remnant in this context.) fleeing the devil into the wilderness for 1,260 days - 3.5 years.
Additionally, the Devil being cast down to earth from heaven - verse 9. This is not when he was cast out originally from the 3rd heaven which happened as referenced by Jesus in Luke 10:18, and OT Isaiah 14:12-15, Ezekiel 28:12-17 KJB, as well as Revelation 12:4 which I will talk about below.
We also understand the timeline of the 2 witnesses: See my study:
The 2 Witnesses and their timeline Revelation 11:3-12 KJV
And of course, we understand Daniel 9:27 and Jesus' warnings in Matthew 24 warnings of events and DON'T GO DOWN AND GET Your garment when you see Daniel 9:27 take place, that by the time the events described in Revelation 12 takes place we are in the middle of the Tribulation regarding the timeline of 7 years.
See more detail in my study of Understanding the END TIME TIME LINE:
Understanding the End Timeline - #Rapture #Tribulation #Millennial Reign of Christ
Verse 1: This scripture is a Prophetic Sign of End Time Events. This is a Heavenly Sign. The literal heavenly constellation of Virgo in solar conjunction while the moon is at the feet of the constellation Virgo and when twelve stars are overhead. Note: Three of the 12 stars are in fact planets. The ‘nine’ stars of the zodiac constellation Leo, plus three planets (Mercury, Venus, and Mars), will be at the head of Virgo — “on her head a crown of 12 stars”. Many - including myself - believe this constellation took place on September 23, 2017.
Verse 2: The planet Jupiter was in the center of Virgo - going through complete retrograde - was in Virgo 9 months and after September 23, Jupiter will exit Virgo to the east, past her feet. This physical celestial sign is also describing the CHURCH which came from Israel - grafted in the missing branch, in regard to the MYSTERY revealed to Paul. See Romans 11:17–25 and Galatians 4:26 and King James Bible.
Verse 3: This is a literal event of Satan taking full control of the earth through the Antichrist after the Rapture of the Church during the Tribulation. There will be ten kingdoms that will arise during the tribulation period. According to this interpretation, three of these kingdoms will be overpowered by the Antichrist, who will then assert his dominance over the remaining seven kingdoms. This interpretation is based on Revelation 17:12-13 King James Bible.
Verse 4: This verse describes the fall of Lucifer from the third heaven when he was thrown out and fell as lightning by God. Isaiah 14:12–14 and Ezekiel 28:12–18, Luke 10:18, Lucifer became Satan - Devil and took a third of the angels with him. When Jesus was born, the Devil worked through Herod to kill Jesus Christ but Joseph and Mary fled to Egypt until the death of King Herod.
Verse 5: THE RAPTURE of the Church HARPAZO’d (see “caught up” Strongs G726 unto God) before the Tribulation begins and described further in Revelation 12. This is the MYSTERY revealed and explained see The MYSTERY of the CHURCH whereas Jerusalem is our Mother Galatians 4:26, Romans 11, Ephesians 2, 3, Romans 4:16,17, Jeremiah 51:19-25, Isaiah 26:19-20, 66:7,8,9, Isaiah 50:1, Isaiah 54:1, 13, Psalm 2, Psalm 8:3-6, Micah 4:10, 2 Timothy 2:12, Jude 1:14,15, Revelation 1:6, 3:21, 5:10, 20:6 KJB. What is hilarious is most Christians are taught by their false shepherds and teachers that Revelation 12:5 is Jesus. However, Jesus was never Raptured; he ascended. Jesus never was taken up into heaven as a child and furthermore never was Jesus who is God almighty brought to the THRONE as before it. See G846 Greek Strongs “to his” throne.
Next we need to talk about the phrase “man child” man (G730 arsen male) child (G5207 Uihos neuter meaning children of God male or female See Matthew 5:9, 8:12) = sons of Abraham aka Human children offspring. )
Jesus was the son of man but was not of the offspring of Joseph (from sperm) nor conceived in the ovum (egg) of Mary but the womb. See my detailed study on this in
https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2022/09/he-that-hath-seen-me-hath-seen-father.html
Also when John describes the Child later in verse 5 we see the word G5043 which is Teknon (children of God for humans not for Jesus Christ. Note: Teknon was used over 90 times in the New Testament and only once for Jesus was when his mother mistakenly called him Teknon Son.
Luke, chapter 2, verses 48-49 in the King James Version (KJV):
"And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?"
This scene takes place when Jesus, at the age of twelve, stayed behind in Jerusalem while his parents, Mary and Joseph, were returning home after the Feast of the Passover. When they realized he was missing, they found him in the temple, discussing with the teachers. Mary expressed her worry, and Jesus responded by indicating that he was fulfilling his divine mission.
Finally, we know from Isaiah 54:1,13, The woman gives birth “before her pain.
See this in studying Isaiah 54:1,13, 66:7-9 and Micah 4:10 KJB also in regard to a Nation (PEOPLE - church) born in one day and AT ONCE bringing forth MANY children in the context of Galatians 4:26, Romans 4:16, Isaiah 66:7-9 with Isaiah 54:1,13 and Micah 4:10 when compared to Revelation 12:5 it is very clear this man child can not be Jesus but rather the Church.
We see the MYSTERY clearly identified here.
This also is the perfect type and shadow of the woman - Israel going into the time of JACOB’S TROUBLE after the Rapture of the church. Also see my studies in 2 Thessalonians 2,2,3 KJB and the Biblical Time Line.
Of course we understand that the woman ISRAEL that escapes will tragically only be 1/3 of the Jews. See Zechariah 13:9, Romans 9, Micah 12:2, etc.
Time to take a hard look at 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3, 7 KJV #Rapture #AntiChrist #EndTimes
Understanding the End Timeline - #Rapture #Tribulation #Millennial Reign of Christ
I explain much more in my studies in the links provided.
Another major problem many Christians and Scholars have with Revelation 12 is they believe it is impossible for God to use a “parenthetical set aside” otherwise known as a “literary interlude” in which the sequential events of Revelation bring Revelation Chapter 12 in the middle of the Tribulation. Yes, we realize that in Revelation chapter 12 we are in the middle of the Tribulation and that the Rapture of the church takes place BEFORE the Tribulation. However, just as there are numerous pauses of literary interlude here in Chapter 12 The Rapture and the Fall of Satan are discussed and then we pick up in verse 6 of Revelation 12 with the events that happen to the Jewish Remnant and the Tribulation Saints.
Verses 6, 13 - 17 describe the events of the Jewish Remnant. We have multiple parallel scriptures including the old testament prophets in Isaiah 10:22, 11:9-11, 50:1, Jeremiah 11:14, Zechariah 13:9, Micah 2:12.
Verses 7-10 Describe the events of Satan being cast out of the 3rd Heaven and now waging war against the Tribulation Saints and the Jewish Remnant. Satan will literally possess the Antichrist causing great destruction on earth.
Firmament of Genesis 1:6, GAP theory The Earth is a Globe
Verse 11; This verse describes the terrible blood shed and martyrdom of the Tribulation Saints. Revelation 6:9-11, 7:13, 13:7-14, 14:12, 20:4.
Notes:
The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible contains several instances where major events were proclaimed by signs in the stars, planets, or heavens. Here are a few notable examples:
The Star of Bethlehem:
Matthew 2:1-2:
The Sun Standing Still:
Joshua 10:12-14:
Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.
The Darkening of the Sun and Moon:
Joel 2:30-31:
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
The Sign of Jonah:
Matthew 12:38-40:
Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
These passages highlight significant events where signs in the heavens played a key role in Biblical narratives, according to the KJV Bible.
The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible contains several references to constellations and celestial bodies. Here are some passages that describe them:
Job 9:9:
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
Job 38:31-33:
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
Amos 5:8:
Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.
These passages mention some of the known constellations, like Orion and Pleiades, and highlight the wonders of the heavens as part of God's creation.
Isaiah 66:7-9 - Revelation 12:5 King James Version. Deep study and connect these scriptures along with Jeremiah 51 :19-21 plus Isaiah 26:18,20 to prove the man child is in deep study from G5207 and H2145 to ancient hebrew lexicon 2121: Male memorial remembrance Ram, remembering action on past events, male the one who remembers and passes down family history, MANKIND act or speak on behalf of another.
Connect to the ram in the thicket when Abraham was going to sacrifice Issac.
This is Jesus Christ who is our kinsman redeemer.
Here are my old notes and rather recent Blog on Revelation 12:5 :is definitely the RAPTURE of The Church
Understanding the Revelation 12 Sign - Reproving Dr. Woods & Dustin "Busy For The Lord." (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
https://youtu.be/a6fl2P3P1PM
The Church of Philadelphia will be Raptured, Receive Crowns and Reign with Christ. Which Church do you belong? (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
To be a Good Soldier for Jesus We have to Know our Authority and Responsibility in order to Strive Lawfully (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
We Saints will literally rule with Christ (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
Isaiah 66:7-8 is the key to understanding Revelation 12:5 as the church being RAPTURED Before the time of Jacob’s Trouble.
There are also several other scriptures we need look at: example:
Revelation 1:6, 2:7,, 3:21, 5:9,10, 16, Acts 1;9, (Jesus Ascended NOT HARAPAZO’d raptured as in caught up Revelation 12:5 also Jesus did not go up to heaven as a child), Galatians 4:26, Matthew 22:45, Psalm 110, Psalm 2, Isaiah 32, Jude 1:14,15, Daniel 7:27, & 7:18, Revelation 19:11-16.
See my study the Armies of Heaven
https://youtu.be/ypqJ1OJHcpo?si=ab0fA7ucBwZfP84R
Isaiah 66
https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/mhc/Isa/Isa_066.cfm
https://www.lightoftheworldtabernacle.com/the-man-child-of-isaiah-and-revelation/
The "male child" is clearly not just a single child... but "children" born from Jerusalem. Isaiah 66 goes on to show that the "glory of the Gentiles" that will be stretched out like a stream are the "children".
https://www.unsealed.org/2017/07/the-birth-of-nation-revelation-12-study.html?m=1
Looking at Grammar of Revelation 12:5 man is masculine adjective arsēn to modify child uihos designated in same context as children of God born again Luke 20:36 uihos. Why would John use a masculine adjective to modify a neuter (non gender person?) He Would not so we know the child was not a person but a body of Believers. Also Jesus did not ascend after his birth
Rev 12:5 KJV And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
https://www.theseventhmillennium.org/the_manchild.html
Here are my old notes and rather recent Blog on Revelation 12:5 :is definitely the RAPTURE of The Church
Understanding the Revelation 12 Sign - Reproving Dr. Woods & Dustin "Busy For The Lord." (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
https://youtu.be/a6fl2P3P1PM
The Church of Philadelphia will be Raptured, Receive Crowns and Reign with Christ. Which Church do you belong? (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
To be a Good Soldier for Jesus We have to Know our Authority and Responsibility in order to Strive Lawfully (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
We Saints will literally rule with Christ (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
Isaiah 66:7-8 is the key to understanding Revelation 12:5 as the church being RAPTURED Before the time of Jacob’s Trouble.
There are also several other scriptures we need look at: example:
Revelation 1:6, 2:7,, 3:21, 5:9,10, 16, Acts 1;9, (Jesus Ascended NOT HARAPAZO’d raptured as in caught up Revelation 12:5 also Jesus did not go up to heaven as a child), Galatians 4:26, Matthew 22:45, Psalm 110, Psalm 2, Isaiah 32, Jude 1:14,15, Daniel 7:27, & 7:18, Revelation 19:11-16.
See my study the Armies of Heaven
https://youtu.be/ypqJ1OJHcpo?si=ab0fA7ucBwZfP84R
Isaiah 66
https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/mhc/Isa/Isa_066.cfm
https://www.lightoftheworldtabernacle.com/the-man-child-of-isaiah-and-revelation/
The "male child" is clearly not just a single child... but "children" born from Jerusalem. Isaiah 66 goes on to show that the "glory of the Gentiles" that will be stretched out like a stream are the "children".
https://www.unsealed.org/2017/07/the-birth-of-nation-revelation-12-study.html?m=1
Looking at Grammar of Revelation 12:5 man is masculine adjective arsēn
Thought for 1m 23s
Scriptures in Focus (KJV)
To begin this deep study, let's quote the primary passages as requested:
Isaiah 66:7-9: "Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God."
Revelation 12:5: "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."
Jeremiah 51:19-21: "The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name. Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms; And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;"
Isaiah 26:18,20: "We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen. ... Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast."
These verses form a thematic web around themes of miraculous birth, deliverance, ruling authority, remembrance, and protection during judgment. We'll connect them through word studies, symbolic ties, and interpretive links, substantiating the view that the "man child" represents the raptured Church—a corporate body of believers—as a memorial of Christ's redemptive work, not solely the historical Jesus.
Word Study: G5207 (Huios), H2145 (Zakar), and Ancient Hebrew Lexicon 2121
A deep lexical analysis reveals layers of meaning that support viewing the "man child" as a collective entity tied to remembrance, inheritance, and intercessory action.
G5207 (Huios - Greek for "son/child"): This masculine noun, used 382 times in the KJV, primarily means "son" but extends broadly to offspring, descendants, or those in kinship/dependence (e.g., pupils or followers). It includes literal sons (Matt. 10:37), posterity (e.g., "sons of Abraham" in Gal. 3:7), and figurative "sons of God" for believers (Rom. 8:14; Gal. 3:26; Luke 20:36, where resurrected believers are "children [huios] of God"). In Revelation 12:5, "man child" is "huios arsen" (son male), emphasizing a masculine, authoritative entity. Grammatically, "arsen" (masculine adjective) modifies the neuter-possible "huios" to stress not a single genderless person but a body of empowered heirs. This aligns with believers as "sons of God" who rule (Rev. 2:27), not Jesus alone, who ascended (anabaino in Acts 1:9) as an adult, not "caught up" (harpazo) as a child.
H2145 (Zakar - Hebrew for "male"): Appearing 81 times, this term (from root H2142, "to remember/mark") means "male" as the "remembered" or "noteworthy" sex, often denoting males of humans/animals (e.g., Gen. 1:27; Exod. 12:5 for sacrificial males). It implies memorial significance, as in circumcision (Gen. 17:10) or firstborn males (Num. 3:40). In Isaiah 66:7, the "man child" (zakar) is a male deliverer born miraculously, echoing collective posterity (v. 8: "her children").
Ancient Hebrew Lexicon 2121 (Jeff Benner's Root: Z.K.R): In Benner's lexicon, entry 2121 covers the root zk r, meaning "remember" (to recall past events, act upon them) or "male" (as the family memorial-bearer who remembers and passes down history). It extends to "mankind" acting or speaking on behalf of another (intercession/redemption) and "ram" (as a memorial sacrifice). The pictographic Hebrew (zayin-kaph-resh) evokes a "weapon" (zayin) "opened" (kaph) for "person" (resh), symbolizing remembrance through action, like a male preserving lineage or a ram as substitute. This ties "male" to active memorial: remembering God's covenants and interceding.
These terms portray the "man child" as a corporate "male son"—believers as God's remembered heirs who memorialize Christ's work, pass down salvation history, and act on behalf of humanity (as intercessors/witnesses). This is not a single child but a "nation born at once" (Isa. 66:8), the Church as "sons of God" (huios theou).
Connection to the Ram in the Thicket and Jesus as Kinsman Redeemer
The ram in Genesis 22:13—caught in the thicket as a substitute for Isaac—directly ties to zakar/2121's "ram" as a memorial sacrifice. Abraham, tested to sacrifice his son (Gen. 22:1-2), finds a ram (ayil, but linked to zakar as male/remembrance) provided by God (Jehovah Jireh, "the Lord provides"). This foreshadows Jesus as the ultimate substitute: the "Lamb of God" (John 1:29), caught in thorns (crown of thorns, Matt. 27:29), dying in our place.
Jesus is our "kinsman redeemer" (go'el), a near-relative who redeems inheritance, avenges, and buys back (Ruth 3-4; Lev. 25:25). As God incarnate (fully human kinsman), He remembers (zakar) humanity's fall, acts on our behalf (intercedes, Heb. 7:25), and passes down eternal history through His body, the Church. The ram's memorial role connects to the man child as believers who "remember" Christ's redemption (Luke 22:19, "do this in remembrance") and rule as co-heirs (Rom. 8:17). This substantiates the man child as the Church, embodying Christ's redemptive memorial.
Proving the Man Child as the Raptured Church: Connections and Substantiation
The traditional view sees Revelation 12:5 as Israel birthing Jesus (woman = Israel, child = Messiah, dragon = Satan). However, grammatical, contextual, and cross-scriptural evidence substantiates it as the pre-tribulation rapture of the Church (body of Christ), born miraculously before Jacob's Trouble (tribulation), to rule with Christ. This aligns with your notes and blogs emphasizing Isaiah 66:7-8 as the key, with the Church (Philadelphia-type overcomers) raptured to receive crowns and reign.
Grammatical and Contextual Evidence
"Huios arsen" (man child) uses a masculine adjective on a potentially neuter noun, indicating not a single person but a collective body (e.g., believers as "sons" in Luke 20:36). Jesus wasn't "caught up" (harpazo, sudden snatch) at birth but ascended deliberately as an adult (Acts 1:9).
The child rules nations with a "rod of iron" (Ps. 2:9), promised to overcomers (Rev. 2:26-27), not just Jesus (Rev. 19:15). This corporate rule fits saints reigning (Rev. 5:9-10; Dan. 7:18,27).
Connection to Isaiah 66:7-9
Birth "before she travailed" (no labor pain) = Church formed suddenly (Pentecost, Acts 2) and raptured before tribulation (Jacob's Trouble, Jer. 30:7). Zion's later travail births more children (tribulation saints/Israel's remnant). Matthew Henry sees this as the Church's explosive growth, a nation born at once. The woman (heavenly Jerusalem, Gal. 4:26) births the Church from Gentiles, her "glory" as children (Isa. 66:19-20).
Connection to Isaiah 26:18,20
V.18: Israel "in pain" but brings forth "wind" (no deliverance)—their efforts under law fail to birth salvation (Rom. 9:31-32). This contrasts Isaiah 66's painless birth (Church by grace).
V.20: "Enter thy chambers... hide... until indignation overpast" = rapture protection. Believers hidden in heavenly rooms (John 14:2-3) during tribulation wrath (1 Thess. 5:9). Many see this as pre-trib rapture, aligning with harpazo in Rev. 12:5.
Connection to Jeremiah 51:19-21
God as "portion of Jacob" forms all, with Israel as His "rod" (inheritance) and "battle axe" to shatter nations. This echoes the man child's "rod of iron" rule (breaking kingdoms). The Church, grafted into Israel (Rom. 11), becomes God's weapon against evil (Eph. 6:12), ruling post-rapture (Rev. 19:11-16; Jude 14-15). As zakar memorial, the raptured Church remembers God's judgments, acting as co-redeemers in millennial reign (Isa. 32:1; Dan. 7:27).
Broader Scriptural Ties: Rapture, Reign, and Armies of Heaven
Your listed verses reinforce this:
Rev. 1:6; 5:9-10: Saints as kings/priests, redeemed to reign.
Rev. 2:7; 3:21: Overcomers (Philadelphia Church) eat from tree of life, sit on throne—raptured to reign (your blog emphasis).
Acts 1:9: Jesus ascended, not harpazo'd as child.
Gal. 4:26: Heavenly Jerusalem as mother (woman in Rev. 12).
Matt. 22:45; Ps. 110; Ps. 2: Christ rules enemies; Church shares (Heb. 1:13).
Isa. 32: Kings rule in justice (millennial).
Jude 14-15; Dan. 7:18,27: Saints with Lord execute judgment.
Rev. 19:11-16: Armies of heaven (raptured saints) follow Christ to rule.
The armies are glorified saints (your video study), not angels, as white linen (Rev. 19:8) is saints' righteousness.
This view is substantiated by grammar, timing, and cross-references, proving the man child as the Church—memorial sons (zakar huios) raptured to throne, remembering Christ's kinsman redemption, hiding from indignation to rule nations.
Isaiah 66:7-9 - Revelation 12:5 King James Version. Do a deep study and connect these scriptures along with Jeremiah 51 :19-21 plus Isaiah 26:18,20 to prove the man child is in deep study from G5207 and H2145 to ancient hebrew lexicon 2121: Male memorial remembrance Ram, remembering action on past events, male the one who remembers and passes down family history, MANKIND act or speak on behalf of another.
Connect to the ram in the thicket when abraham was going to sacrifice Issac.
This is Jesus Christ who is our kinsman redeemer.
Here are my old notes and rather recent Blog on Revelation 12:5 :is definitely the RAPTURE of The Church
We Saints will literally rule with Christ (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
Isaiah 66:7-8 is the key to understanding Revelation 12:5 as the church being RAPTURED Before the time of Jacob’s Trouble.
There are also several other scriptures we need look at: example:
Revelation 1:6, 2:7,, 3:21, 5:9,10, 16, Acts 1;9, (Jesus Ascended NOT HARAPAZO’d raptured as in caught up Revelation 12:5 also Jesus did not go up to heaven as a child), Galatians 4:26, Matthew 22:45, Psalm 110, Psalm 2, Isaiah 32, Jude 1:14,15, Daniel 7:27, & 7:18, Revelation 19:11-16.
See my study the Armies of Heaven
https://youtu.be/ypqJ1OJHcpo?si=ab0fA7ucBwZfP84R
Isaiah 66
https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/mhc/Isa/Isa_066.cfm
https://www.lightoftheworldtabernacle.com/the-man-child-of-isaiah-and-revelation/
The "male child" is clearly not just a single child... but "children" born from Jerusalem.
Isaiah 66 goes on to show that the "glory of the Gentiles" that will be stretched out like a stream are the "children".
https://www.unsealed.org/2017/07/the-birth-of-nation-revelation-12-study.html?m=1
Looking at Grammar of Revelation 12:5 man is masculine adjective arsēn
to modify child uihos designated in same context as children of God born again Luke 20:36 uihos.
Why would John use a masculine adjective to modify a neuter (non gender person?) He Would not so we know the child was not a person but a body of Believers. Also Jesus did not ascend after his birth
Rev 12:5 KJV And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
https://www.theseventhmillennium.org/the_manchild.html
Here are my old notes and rather recent Blog on Revelation 12:5 :is definitely the RAPTURE of The Church
We Saints will literally rule with Christ (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
Isaiah 66:7-8 is the key to understanding Revelation 12:5 as the church being RAPTURED Before the time of Jacob’s Trouble.
There are also several other scriptures we need look at: example:
Revelation 1:6, 2:7,, 3:21, 5:9,10, 16, Acts 1;9, (Jesus Ascended NOT HARAPAZO’d raptured as in caught up Revelation 12:5 also Jesus did not go up to heaven as a child), Galatians 4:26, Matthew 22:45, Psalm 110, Psalm 2, Isaiah 32, Jude 1:14,15, Daniel 7:27, & 7:18, Revelation 19:11-16.
See my study the Armies of Heaven
https://youtu.be/ypqJ1OJHcpo?si=ab0fA7ucBwZfP84R
Isaiah 66
https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/mhc/Isa/Isa_066.cfm
https://www.lightoftheworldtabernacle.com/the-man-child-of-isaiah-and-revelation/
The "male child" is clearly not just a single child... but "children" born from Jerusalem.
Isaiah 66 goes on to show that the "glory of the Gentiles" that will be stretched out like a stream are the "children".
https://www.unsealed.org/2017/07/the-birth-of-nation-revelation-12-study.html?m=1
Looking at Grammar of Revelation 12:5 man is masculine adjective arsēn
to modify child uihos designated in same context as children of God born again Luke 20:36 uihos.
Why would John use a masculine adjective to modify a neuter (non gender person?) He Would not so we know the child was not a person but a body of Believers. Also Jesus did not ascend after his birth
Rev 12:5 KJV And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
https://www.theseventhmillennium.org/the_manchild.html
Jesus Ascension and was not HARPAZO Taken up, Snatched Up, Raptured to Heaven.
Here is A Word Study for Acts 1:9-11 in The King James Bible from Thayer’s Online Lexicon on Jesus Christ of Nazareth’s Ascension Into Heaven: cf. Revelation 12:5 KJB - Talks about The Church, NOT Jesus Christ’s Ascension Into Heaven!!! Because Jesus Christ WASN’T Raptured (Snatched or Violently Removed from The Earth) by an outside source, but Ascended up into The Sky and Heaven by Himself, with NO External Force!!!
Revelation 12:5 KJB: 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 - Particularly Verses 16-18 KJB (Rapture Verses):
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
+++16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
***17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. - HARPAZO - CAUGHT UP - G726: Thayer’s Online Lexicon:
Thayer’s Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 726: ἁρπάζω
HARPAZO - G726
ἁρπάζω; future ἁρπάσω (Veitch, under the word; cf. Rutherford, New Phryn., p. 407); 1 aorist ἥρπασα; passive, 1 aorist ἡρπασθην; 2 aorist ἡρπαγην (2 Corinthians 12:2, 4; Wis. 4:11; cf. Winers Grammar, 83 (80); (Buttmann, 54 (47); WH's Appendix, p. 170)); 2 future ἁρπαγήσομαι; ((Latinrapio; Curtius, § 331); from Homer down); to seize, carry off by force: τί (Matthew 12:29 not R G(see διαρπάζω)); John 10:12; to seize on, claim for oneself eagerly: τήνβασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ, Matthew 11:12(Xenophon, an. 6, 5, 18, etc.); to snatch out or away: τί, Matthew 13:19; τί ἐκχειρός τίνος, John 10:28f; τινα ἐκ πυρός, proverbial, to rescue from the danger of destruction, Jude 1:23 (Amos 4:11; Zechariah 3:2); τινα, to seize and carry off speedily, John 6:15; Acts 23:10; used of divine power transferring a person marvellously and swiftly from one place to another, to snatch or catch away: Acts 8:39; passive, πρός τόν Θεόν, Revelation 12:5; followed by ἕως with the genitive of place, 2 Corinthians 12:2; εἰς τόνπαράδεισον, 2 Corinthians 12:4; εἰς ἀέρα, 1 Thessalonians 4:17. (Compare: διαρπάζω, συναρπάζω.)
***18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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### Compare 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 KJB - CAUGHT UP (1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJB) TO ACTS 12:5 KJB ABOVE, TO REVELATION 12:5 KJB, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT REVELATION 12:5 KJB ***IS NOT JESUS CHRIST***, BUT ### THE CHURCH ###, COMPARING SCRIPTURE WITH SCRIPTURE, IN CONTEXT!!
Acts 1:9 KJB
King James Version
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
https://biblehub.com/greek/1869.htm
Taken Up - Thayer’s Online Lexicon:
Acts 1:9 KJB:
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Acts 1:10
King James Version
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
https://biblehub.com/greek/4198.htm
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
As he went up (went up)
4198. poreuomai
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 4198: πορεύω
πορεύω: to lead over, carry over, transfer (Pindar, Sophocles, Thucydides, Plato, others); middle (from Herodotus down), present πορεύομαι; imperfect ἐπορευόμην; future πορεύσομαι; perfect participle πεπορευμένος; 1 aorist subjunctive 1 person plural πορευσώμεθα (James 4:13 Rec.stGriesbach); 1 aorist passive ἐπορεύθην; (πόρος a ford (cf. English pore i. e. passage through; Curtius, § 356; Vanicek, p. 479)); the Sept. often for הָלַך, הִתְהַלֵּך, יָלַך; properly, to lead oneself across; i. e. to take one's way, betake oneself, set out, depart;
a. properly: τήν ὁδόν μου, to pursue the journey on which one has entered, continue one's journey (A. V. go on one's way), Acts 8:39; πορεύειν followed by ἀπό with a genitive of place, to depart from, Matthew 24:1 (R G); ἀπό with a genitive of the person, Matthew 25:41; Luke 4:42; ἐκεῖθεν, Matthew 19:15; ἐντεῦθεν, Luke 13:31; followed by εἰς with an accusative of place, to go, depart, to some place: Matthew 2:20; Matthew 17:27; Mark 16:12; Luke 1:39; Luke 2:41; Luke 22:39; Luke 24:13; John 7:35; John 8:1; Acts 1:11, 25; Acts 20:1; Romans 15:24; James 4:13, etc.; with an accusative denoting the state: εἰς εἰρήνην, Luke 7:50; Luke 8:48 (also ἐν εἰρήνη, Acts 16:36; see εἰρήνη, 3); εἰς θάνατον, Luke 22:33; followed by ἐπί with an accusative of place, Matthew 22:9; Acts 8:26; Acts 9:11; ἐπί with the accusative of a person Acts 25:12; ἕως with a genitive of place, Acts 23:23; ποῦ (which see) for ποῖ, John 7:35; οὗ (see ὅς, II. 11 a.) for ὅποι, Luke 24:28; 1 Corinthians 16:6; πρός with the accusative of a person, Matthew 25:9; Matthew 26:14; Luke 11:5; Luke 15:18; Luke 16:30; John 14:12, 28; John 16:28; John 20:17; Acts 27:3; Acts 28:26; κατά τήν ὁδόν,Acts 8:36; διά with a genitive of place, Matthew 12:1; (Mark 9:30 L text Tr text WH text); the purpose of the journey is indicated by an infinitive: Matthew 28:8-9Rec.; Luke 2:3; Luke 14:19, 31; John 14:2; by the preposition ἐπί with an accusative (cf. ἐπί, C. I. 1 f.), Luke 15:4; followed by ἵνα, John 11:11; by σύν with a dative of the attendance, Luke 7:6; Acts 10:20; Acts 26:13; 1 Corinthians 16:4; ἔμπροσθεν τίνος, to go before one, John 10:4. absolutely equivalent to to depart, go one's way: Matthew 2:9; Matthew 8:9; Matthew 11:7; Matthew 28:11; Luke 7:8; Luke 17:19; John 4:50; John 8:11; John 14:3; Acts 5:20; Acts 8:27; Acts 21:5; Acts 22:21, etc.; equivalent to to be on one's way, to journey: (Luke 8:42 L Tr marginal reading); ; Acts 9:3; Acts 22:6. to enter upon a journey; to go to do something: 1 Corinthians 10:27; Luke 10:37. In accordance with the oriental fashion of describing an action circumstantially, the participle πορευόμενος or πορευθείς is placed before a finite verb which designates some other action (cf. ἀνίστημι, II. 1 c. and ἔρχομαι, I. 1 a. α., p. 250b bottom): Matthew 2:8; Matthew 9:13 (on which cf. the rabbinical phrase וּלְמֹד צֵא (cf. Schoettgen or Wetstein at the passage)); ; Luke 7:22; Luke 9:13, 52; Luke 13:32; Luke 14:10; Luke 15:15; Luke 17:14; Luke 22:8; 1 Peter 3:19.
b. By a Hebraism, metaphorically, α. to depart from life: Luke 22:22; so הָלַך, Genesis 15:2; Psalm 39:14. β. ὀπίσω τίνος, to follow one, i. e. become his adherent (cf. Buttmann, 184 (160)): Luke 21:8 (Judges 2:12; 1 Kings 11:10; Sir. 46:10); to seek (cf. English run after) anything, 2 Peter 2:10. γ. to lead or order one's life (see περιπατέω, b. α. and ὁδός, 2 a.); followed by ἐν with a dative of the thing to which one's life is given up: ἐν ἀσελγείαις, 1 Peter 4:3; ἐν ταῖς ἐντολαῖς τοῦ κυρίου, Luke 1:6; κατά τάς ἐπιθυμίας, 2 Peter 3:3; Jude 1:16, 18; ταῖς ὁδοῖς μου, dative of place (to walk in one's own ways), to follow one's moral preferences, Acts 14:16; τῇ ὁδῷ τίνος, to imitate one, to follow his ways, Jude 1:11; τῷ φόβῳ τοῦ κυρίου, Acts 9:31; see Winers Grammar, § 31, 9; Buttmann, § 133, 22 b.; ὑπό μεριμνῶν, to lead a life subject to cares, Luke 8:14, cf. Bornemann at the passage; (Meyer edition Weiss at the passage; yet see ὑπό, I. 2 a.; Winers Grammar, 369 (346) note; Buttmann, § 147, 29; R. V. as they go on their way they are choked with cares, etc. Compare: διαπορεύω, εἰσπορεύω (μαι), ἐκπορεύω (ἐκπορεύομαι), ἐνπορεύω (ἐνπορεύομαι), ἐπιπορεύω (ἐπιπορεύομαι), παραπορεύω (παραπορεύομαι), προπορεύω, προσπορεύω (προσπορεύομαι), συνπορεύω (συνπορεύομαι). Synonym: see ἔρχομαι, at the end)
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Acts 1:11 KJB
King James Version
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
https://biblehub.com/greek/353.htm
353. analambanó
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 353: ἀναλαμβάνω
ἀναλαμβάνω; 2 aorist ἀνέλαβον; 1 aorist passive ἀνελήφθην (ἀνελήμφθην L T Tr WH; cf. Winers Grammar, p. 48 (Buttmann, 62 (54); Veitch, (under the word λαμβάνω); see λαμβάνω, and under the word, M, μ')); (from Herodotus down);
1. to take up, raise: εἰς τόν οὐρανόν, Mark 16:19; Acts 1:11; Acts 10:16 (the Sept. 2 Kings 2:11); without case, Acts 1:2, 22; 1 Timothy 3:16 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 413 (385)) (Sir. 48:9).
2. to take up (a thing in order to carry or use it): Acts 7:43; Ephesians 6:13, 16. to take to oneself: τινα, in order to conduct him, Acts 23:31; or as a companion, 2 Timothy 4:11; or in Acts 20:13f, to take up namely, into the ship.
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