Our Planet Earth is a sphere, a 3 dimensional globe. please stop this flat earth nonsense

Like all educated people on planet earth. I'm tired of hearing all this flat earth or we are dirt on water nonsense.


To all FLAT EARTH believers: I ask you to please take the time and email me with the following information. I am doing an independent study and working with people to evaluate the social, economic, educational background and psychological profile of flat earth believers. Would you please email me: vietrandy@gmail.com with the following information: Please tell me in all honesty your highest level of education. Please be honest. Also, when you were in school did you struggle with math and science? If I may ask, what grades did you get in math and science? I would be especially interested to know if you were bullied at school and picked on by students and even teachers for your academic performance. I am compiling a study of flat earthers and it's really disturbing to see a trend here where recently I had a long talk with a flat earther as part of my study, and I found he struggled in school and was marginalized and left behind when in reality he should have been in remedial training. I am not being caustic, but I really need to compile this information to help you and others like you. Biblically speaking, Paul called you and your kind feeble minded, ever learning but never coming to knowledge. I also understand there is not only learning disabilities at work here, but a spiritual cloud over the eyes of your and your kind. I pray your eyes be opened to God's creation and not fall into your ignorance. Looking forward to your email. thank you.Read more

I've even heard Christians say the Bible proves the flat earth. No, it does not. I will show below.

Here are 3 absolute proofs with actual visual demonstrations that the earth is a globe.

1. I am a retired naval officer qualified submarine. I have studied by formal naval training and used both basic navigation piloting, open ocean navigation and celestial navigation. I am also a licensed pilot and have completed aeronautical navigation training using aeronautical charts.  I have traveled throughout the world and nearly half of our earth underwater.  If the earth were flat we would only need a straight line to go from one point of a fixed longitude and latitude to another fixed longitude on the same latitude from the coast of North America to Europe for example.  But we don't.  We have a semicircular otherwise known as the great circle route. If I were to plot a straight line from Norfolk Virginia to Spain and followed this plotted course, I would never arrive to my planned destination.

See notes here:

navigation - Marine charts | Britannica


great circle route, the shortest course between two points on the surface of a sphere. It lies in a plane that intersects the sphere’s centre and was known by mathematicians before the time of Columbus. Until the 19th century ships generally sailed along rhumb lines, which made use of prevailing winds and fixed compass headings.


Great circle routes are usually plotted on charts based on the gnomonic projection, on which great circles appear as straight lines.

Outstanding Link explaining with visual 3-Dimensional images

https://youtu.be/CQGjNu6Inak

A gnomonic map projection is a map projection which displays all great circles as straight lines, resulting in any straight line segment on a gnomonic map showing a geodesic, the shortest route between the segment's two endpoints. This is achieved by casting surface points of the sphere onto a tangent plane, each landing where a ray from the center of the sphere passes through the point on the surface and then on to the plane. No distortion occurs at the tangent point, but distortion increases rapidly away from it. Less than half of the sphere can be projected onto a finite map.[1] Consequently, a rectilinear photographic lens, which is based on the gnomonic principle, cannot image more than 180 degrees.


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2. Here are actual visual demonstrations of plotting a great circle route that proves the earth is a 3 dimensional sphere and not a 2 dimensional plane and Flat Earth vs Globe calculations. I've even included a visual demonstration of why NASA images of our earth do not show stars 


Flat Earther's hate determining Longitude 


Here's a great study on how to use CELESTIAL NAVIGATION.  Flat Earthers hate this class. We've had a 100 % failure rate of flat earthers in this class. Disclaimer: This teacher is Not a paid Government agent. 




Determine Latitude with celestial bodies


Use this study to understand Northern HemiSPHERE and Southern HemiSPHERE.

https://youtu.be/dqar2bhzb5U

Look for yourself from a drop by Felix Baumgartner from space

https://youtu.be/E9oKEJ1pXPw

U2 Pilot at 70,000 Feet with Gary Sinise.  Watch especially time stamp 37: Pilot says, "You see the earth is INDEED ROUND." 
 

Of course the flat earthers will say this is all NOT REAL


Sent GO PRO Camera 90,000 feet into space. 


Using a laser gyroscope to prove earth is not flat

https://youtu.be/ZNI8JuguDC8



https://youtu.be/OVp_yJgSwfA

Proof of Earth's Rotation

https://youtu.be/73Ec-d2RbsI

Fraud pilot tries to mislead and prove flat earth debunked


Flat earth visual demonstrations 




Here's an outstanding video that humiliates flat earth insanity.

https://youtu.be/he-7vs0BkLE


Flat earther gets humiliated.



3. The Bible clearly teaches God created heavenly bodies. 

1 Corinthians 15:40.  Read it carefully in context of the 1 Corinthians 15:35-41.

A body is a body 3-Dimensional physical object whether it be a human or a planet. All living animate creatures and celestial bodies are 3 dimensional and created by Jesus Christ The Person - Body - Image - Person of the Invisible God (Colossians 1:15, 2:9).  The KEWORD:  Creation (Colossians 1:16).   Creation. A 3 dimensional object, not a 2 dimensional plane. We can visually observe the moon is a 3 dimensional object as proof.  

SCRIPTURE OF BODIES:  Heavenly Bodies is scripture: also known as host of heaven to refer to planets, stars, the sun and moon and angels or beings. CREATED BEINGS and not Spirit as God the Father is A Spirit that no man hath seen. 


Oxford English Dictionary Compact Edition page 241:  19: A material thing physical existence and extension in space.   EXTENSION = Expansion. Masses of matter that exist as heavenly bodies in context. Geometry describing a Body: 3 Dimensional SPHERE - GLOBE vs a circle). Heavenly Bodies - Sun, moon planets.  1393 Gower - conf II 84 Bodies - spoken of are planets. 


1 Corinthians 15:40-44 King James Version (KJV)

40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

The best bible based proof the earth is a sphere



More commentary debunking confused, low educated, low informed foolish Christians who are bringing condemnation upon the name of Jesus.



Why are we seeing an increase in the absurdity of  flat earth conspiracy theory?




Note on Firmament in Genesis 1:14,17.

In creation the firmament is simply the existence of the universe from the Apex to the base. A solid Expanse of Heaven of which the Planetary bodies reside.  See the study on the sides of the NORTH - Psalm 48:2, Is 14:13, the ultimate shape of the Universe Pyramid and why Satan hijacked it and why the fallen angels to the Nephilim wanted to copy it all over the earth. See my comments below for further study. If you think the Egyptians built the Pyramids of Giza perfectly aligned with Orion you need to really look deeper into this.

Firmament Oxford English Dictionary page 1007: HEAVEN. The Abode of God.  A Solid Expanse. Something fixed in place. A firm support or foundation. Something that strengthens or supports. In Old Astronomy the Sphere containing the FIXED STARS.  This simply means THE FIXED AND ESTABLISHED SOLID EXPANSE OF THE UNIVERSE.  Jesus Christ the creator of all creation fills the universe. Read Ephesians 1:23. Nothing is out of his sight. Jeremiah 23:24.  It is established as the 3rd heaven at the north apex, the 2nd Heaven below and the 3rd heaven is this physical location of the planetary bodies and in our case planet earth. 

Flat Earthers have latched onto the definition also found in the Oxford Dictionary that is the "Arch or "Vault" of heaven overhead in which the clouds and stars appear in the sky or heaven.  What they fail to mention is this is considered "modern use" "used only in rhetorical or poetry."   Which means there's no astronomical proof or extended definition that support this. 

Addendum June 2022:

Note:  See additional scriptures  below the images that FLATEARTHERS use which I debunk


Why don’t the Flat earthers ever show us the edge of the world?


How does the US Navy conduct CIRCUMNAVIGATION DEPLOYMENTS that are documented by Ship’s History and the Commanding Officer’s official Log that show EAST routes or WEST routes back to their original destination?

These deployments literally go AROUND THE GLOBE and are documented by navigational course headings that would be impossible for anything other than a globe to reconstruct. I have a few images you can google for yourself and ask for the FOIA and see the course headings.

For example I took the first submerged global transit of the USS TRITON which was on a WEST ROUTE and the USS Carl Vinson’s world cruise of 1983 which took a EAST ROUTE.

For those who do not understand navigation a flat earther might think circumnavigate means sailing around in a circle on a two dimensional plane. This would be impossible if you match the course headings of a circle on a 2 dimensional plane as compared to the “ACTUAL” course headings required for a global circumnavigation.

the word navigate literally means 
Navigation is derived from the Latin navis (“ship”) and agere (“to drive”).   Circum means CIRCUM:  PREFIX: circum-, a prefix with the meaning "round about, around,'' found in Latin loanwords, esp. derivatives of verbs that had the general senses "to encompass or surround'' (circumference; circumjacent; circumstance) or "to go around'' by the means or in the manner specified by the verb (circumnavigate;

Cir·cum·nav·i·gate

[ˌsərkəmˈnavəɡāt]

VERB

sail or travel all the way around (something, especially the world):
"he undertook to circumnavigate the globe in 80 days or less"
synonyms:

go around · walk around · travel around · orbit · revolve around · circumambulate


Additional links: Sailing Circumnavigation and Aerial Circumnavigation route

3 well documented circumnavigation routes of Captain  Cook 


https://youtu.be/H6Fz88l2vlo




https://youtu.be/SHT5-Tv00oQ

Circumnavigation of Magellan 




7 Best-Known Routes for Sailing Around the World (with Maps) - Improve Sailing


An Overview of the First Aerial Circumnavigation – Boot Camp & Military Fitness Institute (bootcampmilitaryfitnessinstitute.com)









Additional NOTES:

The FLAT EARTHERS love Isaiah 40:22 because of course they take it literally and use modern Bible translations instead of the King James Bible which reads: "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in." 

The King James Bible proves you are correct in that it is an allegory in that God does not literally sit on earth, but rather is sitting down on His throne at the apex of the pyramid of the Universe. See why North is so important to God's perspective in SIDES OF THE NORTH any why this is a Pyramid shape Psalm 48:2 and Isaiah 14:13 looking straight down from the northern perspective to south over the north pole of the earth you'd see all planetary bodies*  in 2 dimensional circle.  * Bodies are 3 dimensional 1 Corinthians 15:40. 

But back to Isaiah 40:22.  I even took a beach ball and placed it between my feet and looked straight down and I could clearly see a 2 dimensional circle when looking "directly overhead" down through the north pole axis of the ball.  However, when focusing on the word "circle" we see in context Isaiah 40:22 is referring to the ORBIT of the earth around the Sun which when looking "from overhead downward" is a circle called an "ellipse."  We prove this by looking closely at the Grammar here:  CIRCLE OF the EARTH.   We see Circle is used as a concrete noun here followed by the preposition OF with the earth.  This means that The Earth is NOT a circle but rather the earth is part of, a constituent, component of THE CIRCLE; i.e., ORBIT, - is in that circle - circular orbit of this ellipse. 

Or recently I heard 80 scriptures, they either use a modern perverted bible translation and or squeeze their own interpretation and not allow scripture to interpret scripture. The other glaring error is they do not understand grammar or basic logic such as relative motion. For example their claim that God stopped the Sun literally means the relative motion of the sun's transit across the earth as noted on a Sundial (the first method of marking time) is stopped.  Joshua 10:13 - The Sun Stood Still = Relative Motion to Earth.  The relative motion of the earth's rotation is held.  Modern science says slowing the rotation of the earth would cause cataclysmic events such as tsunamis and the loss of the magnetic field. However, God would have of course controlled these forces for the duration of the event described in Joshua 10:13.  

Addendum 

Eze 7:2 KJV Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.

Corner in context extremity H3671 of the 4 Cardinal headings NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST

H3671

Original: כּנף

Transliteration: kânâph

Phonetic: kaw-nawf'

All parts of the world; the farthest reaches.I have traveled to the four corners of the earth to retrieve the medallion, and I'm not going to stop now.

MAILBAG Response to flatearthers challenging my findings

 Updated Links proving the earth is a sphere and

 NOT FLAT


THE ULTIMATE PHOTO FROM INDIA a selfie with earth- moon - the FLATearth peeps now have to say India is part of the conspiracy - making these wonderful photos in a studio




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Another problem for FLATEARTHers is now NOAA Weather Space Tracking Satellite would have to be making up their Hurricane tracking data




Space Walk Helmet Cam Footage of Earth outside of space station



Time-Lapse Space X crew approaching space station 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/time-lapse-of-spacex-s-crew-6-dragon-approaching-space-station/vi-AA1g6XI8?ocid=socialshare&pc=U531&cvid=84a2be65ad19430d93ce599bd72ffaa9&ei=24Read more


All welcome to come and join our CELESTIAL NAVIGATION CLASS in 3 Parts. My favorite class in the Navy's OCS class. Warning: FLAT EARTHERS have a 100 % failure rate in this course since it is impossible for them to do these calculations based on their "THEORY". 2nd Warning: Never ever get on an airplane or a sea going ship with a Pilot or Captain who believes in FLAT EARTH. 

You'll never arrive at your destination. Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ARXW8InStY&t=8002s Part 2 https://youtu.be/yu5R5mrrGB0 Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7yoXhbOQ3Y&t=45sRead more


Now the Flat Earth folks are going to have to include the Country of India on the conspiracy list. India moon landing chandrayaan-3 photos of earth from lunar orbit Looks like the Indians have developed awesome photoshopping of their south polar moon landing to see the southern hemisphere of earth. LOOKS LIKE THE EARTH IS A BALL. Hmmm.Read more


Amazing Time-Lapse Of Artemis 1 Spacecraft and Earth Hours Before Re-Entry See the Artemis 1 Orion spacecraft and Earth about 2 hours prior to splashdown in this time-lapse. Credit: NASA | time-lapse by Space.com's Steve Spaleta Music: A Rising Sun by Alan Ellis / courtesy of Epidemic Soun 



Experiential learning Experiential Learning Background Experiential learning is an engaged learning process whereby students “learn by doing” and by reflecting on the experience. Experiential learning activities can include, but are not limited to, hands-on laboratory experiments, internships, practicums, field exercises, study abroad, undergraduate research and studio performances. Well-planned, supervised and assessed experiential learning programs can stimulate academic inquiry by promoting interdisciplinary learning, civic engagement, career development, cultural awareness, leadership, and other professional and intellectual skills. Learning that is considered “experiential” contain all the following elements: Reflection, critical analysis and synthesis. Opportunities for students to take initiative, make decisions, and be accountable for the results. Opportunities for students to engage intellectually, creatively, emotionally, socially, or physically. A designed learning experience that includes the possibility to learn from natural consequences, mistakes, and successes. Experiential Learning | Center for Teaching & Learning (bu.edu)Read more


Here the Earth is seen from the moon by a private Japanese agency. The Flaters are now not only going to have to deny the existence of NASA's videos but now that of a private company from Japan 


Or here is a completely separate private firm with a virgin galactic flight soars to suborbital space still shows a curve. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/virgin-galactic-soars-to-suborbital-space-for-5th-time-in-amazing-views/vi-AA1fpPLS?ocid=socialshare Or here India must be debunked by FLAT Earthers : https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/india-sends-space-rocket-to-the-moon/vi-AA1flXVo?ocid=msedgntp&t=45Read more



Must see proving the earth is sphere with 2 sticks and a bicycle https://youtu.be/YaPa4esJJx4


Outstanding video that humiliates flat earth insanity. https://youtu.be/he-7vs0BkLE Flat earther gets humiliated.


Time Lapse of Space X approaching space station... Flat Earthers will claim this was fabricated. Yes, the Evidence stacks up against their insanity.

 ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/watch-the-far-side-of-moon-as-it-comes-between-earth-and-spacecraft/vi-AA1fCB6d?ocid=socialshare&cvid=d4c4b4dbbde744d4ba601a3396edc5f0&ei=14 The far side of the moon as it comes in between earth and spacecraft. Whoops, another independent photoRead more



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/spacex-falcon-9-second-stage-captured-stunning-earth-view/vi-AA1flChY?ocid=socialshare&cvid=af1ab8b93e034be4a59ba81d29cfcafd&ei=52 The ignorant fools who refuse to believe the earth is sphere do not believe NASA photos and now they have to deny these spaceex falcon 9 2nd state videos. The more they deny the truth the more entrenched they become in their insanity.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-shares-dramatic-video-of-falcon-9-rocket-s-death-dive/ar-AA12ICxs?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7dc82005ca2344419d462f0ce4d2f509 Whoops! Elon Musk photos of Falcon 9... Guess he photoshopped them like NASA did all of theirs?



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/spacex-falcon-9-second-stage-captured-stunning-earth-view/vi-AA1fDNyR?ocid=socialshare&cvid=55529d2adaa349c586ea9e92d37efe51&ei=97 Space X Falcon 9 2nd Stage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd-FAyHdpxI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyD8VIK032o



https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/satellite-takes-4k-selfie-over-great-barrier-reef-what-a-view/vi-AA14695y?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d7563ccf49654d9ba0be76bc1edb516d


https://youtu.be/JDy95_eNPzM



Planet aligning in June, first in nearly 1,000 years. 4 planets Saturn, Jupiter, Venus, and Mars. Why can Australia see the 5 visible planets in a VERTICAL alignment whereas the Northern Hemisphere is at a low angle??? This would be impossible from a flat planed earth, but only on a SPHERE. Why it's been almost 1,000 years? Planets, all planets - including planet earth, are in orbits, moving at different speeds throughout the SOLAR SYSTEM.


Eze 7:2 KJV Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. Corner in context extremity H3671 of the 4 Cardinal headings NORTH - SOUTH - EAST - WEST H3671 Original: כּנף Transliteration: kânâph All parts of the world; the farthest reaches. I have traveled to the four corners of the earth to retrieve the medallion, and I'm not going to stop now.Read more



https://youtu.be/N6c3Y_AtXco See latest video of U2 FLIGHT @70,000 FEET MSL with Gary Sinise in rear seat taking video. Pilot says at time stamp 37:26: "Can you see the EARTH IS INDEED ROUND? This isn't a NASA Flight. But they'll say, this video was staged.


Another problem for FLATEARTHers is now NOAA Weather Space Tracking Satellite would have to be making up their Hurricane tracking data https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/amazing-time-lapse-from-space-of-tropical-storm-bret/vi-AA1gizyI?ocid=socialshare&pc=U531&cvid=a782adb778a745c4b66d7c4e7f0f40c6&ei=50



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  1. Thank you, Brother Andrew, for all of the evidence against flat-earth nonsense! Rather than focusing on Biblical imagery (not meant to be taken literally) like the four corners in Revelation 20:8, let's look at images like the first one in this article: https://www.travelandleisure.com/photography/best-earth-photos-from-international-space-station-2020. If that doesn't convince a flat-earther, I don't know what will!

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    1. Amen! To go around this Flat Earthers do not believe NASA has actually taken any photographs but have faked all their space photos.

      I did some more research on a few more scriptures FLATEARTHERS USE:

      The FLAT EARTHERS love Isaiah 40:22 because of course they take it literally and use modern Bible translations instead of the King James Bible which reads: "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in."

      The King James Bible proves you are correct in that it is an allegory in that God does not literally sit on earth, but rather is sitting down on His throne at the apex of the pyramid of the Universe. See why North is so important to God's perspective in SIDES OF THE NORTH any why this is a Pyramid shape Psalm 48:2 and Isaiah 14:13 looking straight down from the northern perspective to south over the north pole of the earth you'd see all planetary bodies* in 2 dimensional circle. * Bodies are 3 dimensional 1 Corinthians 15:40.

      But back to Isaiah 40:22. I even took a beach ball and placed it between my feet and looked straight down and I could clearly see a 2 dimensional circle when looking "directly overhead" down through the north pole axis of the ball. However, when focusing on the word "circle" we see in context Isaiah 40:22 is referring to the ORBIT of the earth around the Sun which when looking "from overhead downward" is a circle called an "ellipse." We prove this by looking closely at the Grammar here: CIRCLE OF the EARTH. We see Circle is used as a concrete noun here followed by the preposition OF with the earth. This means that The Earth is NOT a circle but rather the earth is part of, a constituent, component of THE CIRCLE; i.e., ORBIT, - is in that circle - circular orbit of this ellipse.

      Or recently I heard 80 scriptures, they either use a modern perverted bible translation and or squeeze their own interpretation and not allow scripture to interpret scripture. The other glaring error is they do not understand grammar or basic logic such as relative motion. For example their claim that God stopped the Sun literally means the relative motion of the sun's transit across the earth as noted on a Sundial (the first method of marking time) is stopped. Joshua 10:13 - The Sun Stood Still = Relative Motion to Earth. The relative motion of the earth's rotation is held. Modern science says slowing the rotation of the earth would cause cataclysmic events such as tsunamis and the loss of the magnetic field. However, God would have of course controlled these forces for the duration of the event described in Joshua 10:13.

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    2. Yes, I have heard that belief as well about NASA; Capricorn One, anyone?! (A fun movie, but I'm sure flat-earthers point to it as "evidence" of how such a thing could happen.) Thank you for your evidence, particularly the orbit!

      I think flat-earthers would have to prove their theory by getting to the "edge" of the Earth, but I'm sure they rationalize that away somehow.

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    3. Yes, it's amazing how they can rationalize never reaching the end of their flat earth that goes into infinity, yet when I show them solid Navy Navigation of a curve (to travel on a globe 3-dimensional body) instead of a straight line (to travel on a 2-dimensional shape) of a course laid out on a cardinal heading, they blindly refute it. Their blind and willful negligence of the proven concept of circumnavigation is beyond belief.

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    4. I guessed they would nonsensically say that the flat earth is infinite; that makes sense in terms of space-time curvature, but not the Earth. And circumnavigation is the perfect word for what you're describing in terms of irrefutable evidence of Earth's curvature.

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    5. The Capricorn One Movie is a good point. Even IF the 1969 Moon Landing was a hoax this still doesn't deny other facts I detail in the Blog. Here is a good link that debunks all the major conspiracy theory on the moon landing. https://www.history.com/news/moon-landing-fake-conspiracy-theories . If pressed, I always have to contend that it would have been impossible to keep over 40,000 scientists and lab workers silent if in fact this entire thing was a hoax. Conspiracy theories like 911 are much easier to believe than the moon landing because there exists solid scientific proof the 911 conspiracy was real. I realize this is another subject, but wanted to include as a conspiracy theory that is more plausible than the moon landing hoax.

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    6. The idea of infinity makes sense in terms of space-time curvature, but is nonsensical in terms of the supposedly flat Earth. Also, the term you used, circumnavigation, is the perfect word to describe the irrefutable curvature of the Earth from the standpoint of naval navigation. Finally, in terms of the moon landing, as you say, it would have been impossible to keep tens of thousands of people silent if it were a hoax; it reminds me of one of the strongest points of evidence for Jesus' resurrection, which I'm sure Christian flat-earthers would not deny!

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