Case Study My Poster Boy joseph The Love Sick FOOL
This study is Case Study for our Example to learn and Work out our Salvation with FEAR and Trembling. To take this young man's commentary to my YouTube Videos below and study them. The deepest part of this study is to learn how to STUDY the Word of God and understand Doctrine. I have a detailed study on Doctrine and How to Study the King James Bible. One of the biggest hurdles in understanding scripture is we are by nature mentally lazy and don't want to READ for Understanding and do not understand harmonizing PARADOX. For a Prerequisite, please do the homework I recommend in these studies: I will be referring to these studies often throughout this study.
Doctrine is: Learning The Teaching of the Word of God (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2022/04/understand-bible-from-workman-approved.html
Background:
Last week a young man by the name of joseph began commenting on my YouTube Video and associated Blog titled:
In The Kingdom with Brother John Revelation 1:9 KJB
https://youtu.be/6WbGGU4crog?si=dCM7F9bgSBniNZir
Further down I will share his actual comments and my responses. There were many red flags regarding his misguided thinking whereas in part I could agree in some areas, but nevertheless I corrected him in love and in patience.
I then recommended him to a related study and video titled with the associated study link Blog:
The Millennial Kingdom
https://youtu.be/y-citBLFze0?si=SAw5_3zQPt6w680S
It was here the wheels fell off and I had to nip his misguided thinking in the bud. I then warned him and beseeched (see the powerful meaning of the pain I felt later in this study) when I asked him to study 3 major areas in the hope he would stop rambling from his carnal mind and actually understand how to rightly divide scripture and harmonize in proper bible hermeneutics. Of no coincidence I had recently dealt with someone rambling on what they think instead using doctrine speak regarding the things of God and His Word:
This is What I Think vs This is What Doctrine States
https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2024/03/blog-post.html
I normally wouldn't go to such lengths with anyone but he really seemed hungry for the truth. When he responded to my request to do some actual study homework from my study blog, he became belligerent and pride set in his heart and sure enough he did not answer my questions but kept going deeper in error and ignorance willful ignorance and as ALL mockers do they go after me for NOT acting in LOVE and sure enough joseph went after the 1 Corinthians 13 LOVE chapter and this is where he really showed me he suffers from UNREQUIETED LOVE from really not wanting to know Jesus Christ from STUDY of His WORD.
To my amazement I am currently working on a joint project of Song Of Solomon and joseph precisely fit into parts of the S of S study.
For a few years now I've really wanted to address LOVE and CHARITY and the horrid misunderstanding of Charity and why the King James uses Charity and how all false teachers who normally use a perverted Bible will pull out the King James for Charity and it is here they display their full IGNORANCE proving themselves REPORBATE in the Faith. FOOLS as Paul and Jesus call them and so do I.
I blocked and deleted joseph's comments from my channel and I was sad he did not email before I had to do this, but I did warn him I would be using his work, posting him as my poster boy.
He as you'll read, agreed but warned me if I misrepresented him in any way my work would be cursed. I also said he shook the dust of his feet from me but still would be praying for me. I tell this young man may both our work be examined by the Lord and the one who is not in doctrine and in LOVE will be burned indeed. As far as his misguided curse, it will be returned back on him 100 fold. I pray he repents.
BEGIN STUDY:
Philippians 2:12
“Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”
King James Version (KJV)
1 John 4:18
“There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.”
King James Version (KJV)
“But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.”
King James Version (KJV)
Proverbs 9:8
“Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.”
King James Version (KJV)
2 Timothy 4:2
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.”
King James Version (KJV)
2 Timothy 4:3
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;”
King James Version (KJV)
2 Timothy 4:4
“And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
King James Version (KJV)
Psalms 135:18- 115:8
“They that make them are like unto them: so is every one that trusteth in them.”
King James Version (KJV)
1 Peter 4:17
“For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?”
King James Version (KJV)
Titus 1:13
“This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;”
King James Version (KJV)
Titus 1:16
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”
King James Version (KJV)
2 Timothy 3:8
“Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.”
King James Version (KJV)
Romans 1:22
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,”
King James Version (KJV)
Matthew 23:17
“Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?”
King James Version (KJV)
They that sware by the gold of the temple had an eye to it as holy; but what was it that made it holy but the holiness of the temple, to the service of which it was appropriated? And therefore the temple cannot be less holy than the gold, but must be more so; for the less is blessed and sanctified of the better, Heb 7 7. The temple and altar were dedicated to God fixedly, the gold and gift but secondarily. Christ is our altar (Heb 13 10), our temple (John 2 21)
Matthew 23 Commentary - Matthew Henry Commentary on the Whole Bible (Complete) (biblestudytools.com)
Song of Solomon 2:5
“Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.”
King James Version (KJV)
Song of Solomon 5:8
“I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if ye find my beloved, that ye tell him, that I am sick of love.”
King James Version (KJV)
In The Kingdom with Brother John Revelation
1:9 KJB
https://youtu.be/6WbGGU4crog?si=dCM7F9bgSBniNZir
@joseph.bittick • 3 days ago
Good perspectives. There are definitely variances in God's judgement and more than just heaven and hell. A study into Gahanna brings about interesting study. Most of the time, the word interpreted as "hell" is Gahanna. Which is an actual valley. When Jesus talks about the judgments against the kingdom of Satan, He uses "Hades".
But further interesting perspective to consider. The parable of the sheep and the goats, Jesus says after He sets up His physical throne. Well, there is a major event before that. The resurrection, changing into immortal, and catching up with Him to return with Him. We become part of His heavenly hosts and return to assist Him when He rules. So then in the parable, His hosts (angels and saints) gather the nations after their defeat. He now under His millennium reign will have new sheep, but they missed the blessing of entering the kingdom and being able to come to the Father. But this goats, they were following the false christ empire of Satan. They thought they were following Christ, but it was the antichrist kingdom. This is why they thought they were doing things in His name.
My Response
@vietrandy1 • 3 days ago
Thank you for your comment. Yes the variances are there referring to the context used. We know Greek uses both Hades and Geenna from the Hebrew Gei ben (valley of the son of hinnom). Hence outside the city where the continually burning of the city collective dump site. And of course the Hebrew Sheol. It's wonderful to know the words behind the English Translation to understand the context better. In the end there is Hell translated to mean clearly throughout scripture as the holding place for the lost within the earth. The ultimate destination of the lost is the ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE after the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT. Regarding the Sheep and Goat Judgment after the 2nd Advent. Scripture tells us this of for the goats who abused and mistreated the Jews DURING THE TRIBULATION - and would not render aid. Amir Tsarfati and his band of Judaizer, ZIONISTS actually believe this includes anyone who does not take care of (you can only imagine the subjective ends here) and kowtow to National Israel today. I like your perspective on the "new sheep" who I infer you mean apart from the true Israel (The Church, The Tribulation Saints, The Jewish Remnant, and the Old Testament Saints). I agree it seems they are the ones who survived the Tribulation but are still not inheriting the Kingdom, but honored for their actions to help the Jews during the Tribulation. I would very much like to study this more .
Thank you again for your comment,
@joseph.bittick •
@vietrandy1 When I studied the Valley of Hinnom/Geenna I discovered it was more than just a dumpsite that was continually burning. It was also the location for the outcasts and unclean. The poor and lepers dwelled there and hoped to eat the scraps before they were burnt. Also cult pagans worshipped demons and sacrificed children. And in Revelation 21-22, no clean thing can enter the new Jerusalem. It sounds to me two groups will be in Geenna. The cult kingdom of Satan in the fire and those who are the unclean because they didn't accept the blood of the Lamb. Your thoughts?
And what are your thoughts on the "Book of Life" and the "Lamb's Book of Life"?
My Response:
Yes, I think I see you point. So you're saying specifically that the so called cult group of satan are the unclean outcasts of the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21:8 and 22:15? Note: I disagree with the majority of Bible scholars who actually believe Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 are referring to the Eternal State, but if this were the case then why would there still be these evil ones outside the gate? I did a detailed study on the Millennial Kingdom here where I point this out:
https://youtu.be/y-citBLFze0
Regarding "Book of Life" and "Lamb's Book of Life" scripture and evidence with cross reference they are exactly referring to the same. You have scripture evidence contrary to this?
@joseph.bittick •
@vietrandy1 Well I am more so saying there are going to be two groups outside the gate. Maybe more, we have limited info until our King returns. But the two groups are those in fire and those who are unclean. The goats, the cult Satanic group of the antichrist (throughout generations, not just at the time of the end) will go into the lake of fire reserved for Satan and his angels per Matt 25:41. The goats have been human agencies of the devil on earth. Concerning the fire, on the Sermon on the Mount, when Jesus speaks of anger/hate (obviously speaking to Jews, not cult Satanists), He uses prison as a metaphor for Hell/afterlife. In Matt 5:26, He says, "Truly, I say to you (those in spiritual prison over anger), you will never get out until you have paid every penny." Almost like some in the fire can serve time/sentence but then be released from fire. Released to be part of the second group I place at the gate, the unclean. If I recall, you used an analogy that say a non-believing person is a thief, but has a moral repentance. It doesn't mean they go to lake fire or can come to the Father. Forgive if I misunderstood. But if I did understand you correctly I agree, and they are the unclean group. People who are not "wicked" but aren't made clean by the blood of the Lamb. But those who are made clean by the Lamb, get to enter the gate/city of the Father and go to and fro. Scripture says we become eternal priests. Priests to who? I think to the unclean in the valley. I occasionally study non cannon text, mainly Dead Sea scrolls just as historical context. But much of scripture shares quotes. And I believe it is 2nd Esdra (Greek writings of Ezra), he sees the same vision of Revelation 14. Holy elect ones standing on Mount Zion with Jesus. And below Mount Zion is described a valley with two groups, one in the fire and the others a commoners. Anyway just an interesting parallel found elsewhere in Jewish literature.
I will listen to your study and message you there concerning the topic of the Millennial Kingdom and judgement books. It sounds like we are coming from the same interpretations. Which is refreshing. When Jesus says we can only come to the Father through Him, Christians/Bible readers have taken it upon themselves to conclude the opposite outcome can only be Hell. We are not the judge and we should not put words in the text or Christ's mouth that aren't there.
My Response:
We are coming to the same conclusion regarding those unclean outside the gates Revelation 21 and 22 During the Millennial Kingdom.
However, your ending statement: Quote: "When Jesus says we can only come to the Father through Him, Christians/Bible readers have taken it upon themselves to conclude the opposite outcome can only be Hell. We are not the judge and we should not put words in the text or Christ's mouth that aren't there."
Let's be very clear here. There are ultimately 2, repeat only 2 outcomes for ALL humanity. Eternity with Jesus Christ or Eternity in the Eternal Lake of Fire. Any, repeat Any additional interpretations taken from historical accounts, including non canon books are indeed putting words in the text or Christ's mouth that ARE NOT THERE. STICK TO THE SCRIPT PLEASE. SCRIPT = DOCTRINE The Word of God King James Bible. Otherwise our carnal mind leads us in the cross hairs of VAIN IMAGINATION and Philosophy and Tradition of man and NOT after Christ.
This is What I Think vs This is What Doctrine States
https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2024/03/blog-post.html
https://youtu.be/y-citBLFze0?si=SAw5_3zQPt6w680S
@joseph.bittick •
I was listening to your study yesterday. I agree there are lot's of false teachings out there and I am also not a fan of the teachers you mention. But I also would caution you from thinking you have it all right. I was listening and 3/4 of the way through, your teaching and attitude just wasn't setting well. So I asked the Holy Spirit if I should just kick the dust from listening to your study and continuing in dialog with you (we have been speaking under a different study of yours). The Holy Spirit told me yes. So I dropped your study and moved on. Then today I heard a lesson that reminded me of your study. So then I asked the Holy Spirit, "Do you want me to bring this up instead?" I received a yes. My comments yesterday were going to be very different, the Spirit told me no, and now God showed what to comment on and the Spirit said yes. Out of love and being led by the Spirit, I would like to challenge you to read Matthew 5: 21-26.
Jesus' teaching on anger. Jesus says whoever calls his brother "You Fool" is liable for the fire of Geenna. The lesson I heard today (from another ministry) was on the Olivet Discourse.
Jesus says the love of many will grow cold. And the teacher brought up how divided the church is and how different divisions call each other "stupid". I am with you, the teachers you call out have doctrinal issues. But like us, they accept Jesus as their Lord, Savior, and King! And our King doesn't want us to talk to brothers this way or anyone else for that matter. I think you can can call them out, let your teaching of scripture be the truth, without calling people names. I felt yesterday your 1 hour rant of how stupid and reprobate these brothers are really took away from the study.
You went on for one hour and then finally delivered a study for another hour. I don't think this serves your ministry well. I think you have some good teachings and insights, but a poor attitude really interferes with your teachings. Just let your teachings speak for themselves and you can point out their flaws more tactfully without disrespecting someone's name. Other people can hear either side and make a judgement calls based on accurate teachings of scripture. I am not against you and I say this out of love and doing what I felt the Lord wanted me to say. God bless!
My Response:
joseph. Read this very carefully:
Here is your Homework assignment: Please prepare this in either a WORD or Google Document and Email it to me at vietrandy@gmail.com
I urge you to check your pride and humble yourself and actually do this work to study God's work so that you may be approved unto God a workman that need not BE ASHAMED. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJB:
Please use KING JAMES ONLY since it will severely distort the truth if you use a perverted translation which I believe you are doing as a habit.
Part I:
In 250 - 500 words Harmonize Matthew 5:21-26 with the following scriptures:
Proverbs 23:9
Speak not in the ears of a FOOL: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
Psalm 14:1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Jesus calls the Pharisees FOOLS Matthew 23 verses 17 and 19
17 Ye FOOLS and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
19 Ye FOOLS and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Paul calls those opposing the Knowledge of God FOOLS:
1 Corinthians 15:36
Thou FOOL, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
Here is some background information to assist your study:
Among the 60 plus times the word FOOL is used in the King James Bible in the same context I use the word most are in the old testament like Proverbs 23:9 and Psalm 14:1, these directly apply to both the Kingdom dispensation, Jesus warning the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Heaven may not call another saint FOOL (Matthew 5 BEATITUDES including cut off your right hand remove your eye if they cause you to sin), to the end of the Kingdom where Jesus calls the lost Pharisees FOOLS. Matthew 23 and to the age of GRACE where Paul blasts the dull, feeble minded, the Judaizers/Pharisees false teachers. 1 Corinthians 15:36
Part II
Prepare a 250 to 500 word essay on the biblical application of how we TEST THE SPIRITS in accordance with 1 John 4:1 and 1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJB: In other words the danger of FOOLS when they say the Holy Spirit tells them information that is contrary to DOCTRINE.
Part III
Read my study on DOCTRINE. Write a short 150 word essay giving me a synopsis of what this teaching entails in a nutshell:
Doctrine is: Learning The Teaching of the Word of God (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
IF you CHOSE NOT to do these 3 essential assignments and email it to me, I will be inclined to copy your comment and showcase your ignorance of doctrine and misguided thinking that you are being led by the Holy Spirit when your flawed theology and advice is from your carnal mind, and vain imagination and NOT after Christ since what you advise me is NOT in accordance with DOCTRINE.
In other words, I will Blog your comment with your name as a CASE STUDY with my commentary in detail whereby you're not in accordance with Doctrine for students of the Word of God to learn from.
Please advise IF you are willing to do the homework and rethink your comment and flawed advice that darkens counsel with words without knowledge.
OR Do you want to be a belligerent beast as were the Ephesians (1 Corinthians 15:32 KJB) and contest me further? Mind you. IF you are unwise and A FOOL you will have all your comments deleted, you'll be blocked from my channel so you don't keep sowing leaven into this channel, and find yourself as my new poster boy in my next CASE STUDY.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS. CHOSE WISELY.
@joseph.bittick •
@vietrandy1 I have said nothing deserving of your threats and prideful reply.
I have affirmed your teachings and offered constructive perspective.
And you who seem to think you can justify blasting people on a common bases. I understand sometimes we need to call foolish things out. You can talk about the teaching being foolish without calling another believer a fool! My sister had hate for her ex. We took her in and tried helping her. And my advice to her was to hate her ex's sin, but not the person. Pity him and the things he has experienced that led to his sin against her. Pray for him to understand how he hurts people and to seek truth and Jesus.
But hating the person doesn't do any good. Now I don't think you hate these teachers, but my point is you can expose their teachings as "foolish" and not badger a fellow image bearer and believer in Christ. Do you pray for these teachers? Do you pray that they would find the truth and thus help others? If this challenge provokes a defensive response for you to assume some sort of authority figure like your my dad or professor and threaten me, then so be it! I welcome you to use me as a poster child.
But I warn you, if you cut up and take out of context this discussion to make yourself look good, may such an attempt be a curse (not you, but your action) and may the Lord humble you. All I have done is advise you to not unlovingly badger people and that you can still exposé their false teachings and let your true teaching do the talking.
If you show this true dialog to people and your response is to "threaten" me, by all means I think this will show your true spirit. Paul says in 1 Cor 13, 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth [1] not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; [2] 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Now, before you call me a reprobate because King James says "charity", understand that KJV is Old English. And in Old English "charity" meant the highest form of love from a Christ follower. And even more to this point, Paul says in verse 3, though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor...but no charity! So charity in American English means to give to the poor. So clearly "charity" between our language and Old English means "love". And you Sir, as Paul says in verse And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. This describes you!
Further more, I am trying to help give listener advise because when you engage in non loving knowledge and teachings, your teaching comes across like as sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal.
You may have better knowledge than these teachers, but you do not have charity/love! Especially in your defensive and threatening response to me. Jesus corrected the rich man, but lovingly. And yes, there were times Jesus had turn cords into whips! Problem is you aren't Yeshua, and you seem to justify whipping anyone who thinks differently than you or challenges you.
I kick the dust off my feet of you, but I shall pray for you. I want you to succeed, not falter. And know this, your threats are a mode of bullying me into seeing your way and justifying your actions. I do and will not submit to such behavior. Your threats are but a vapor! And if I am so wrong, may the Lord clearly correct me. But I have a feeling that love/charity, and teaching of such ALWAYS WINS!
My Response:
The tragic CASE STUDY of the Love Sick FOOL - joseph who gets downloads from a spirit that does not stand the scrutiny of DOCTRINE.
The Indictment:
2 Timothy 2:15
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
King James Version (KJV)
Galatians 4:16
“Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?”
King James Version (KJV)
Joseph gets the blue ribbon prize for the Poster Boy of the New Age Full Gospel Spirit Anointing NAR Seeker Friendly Laodicean Ear Tickled Laodicean Church
This young man stands as the PERFECT CASE study - My preferred vernacular POST BOY of 2 Timothy 4:2-4 KJB showing himself the Jeremiah 10:8, Psalm 135:18, Psalm 115:8
Psalm 115:8 and 135:18 IDOLS one becomes one of them
Examine the FALSE TEACHERS joseph follows on YouTube:
Kap Chatfield: 1.2 M followers: online pastor, entrepreneur, creates content for the kingdom of God, monetized, how to increase income God’s way How to be Baptized in Holy Spirit. Seeker Friendly Kingdom Building
Timothy Alberino: Explorer in the paranormal, occult, aliens, Enoch Megalith Watchers, Birthright series.
DLM Men’s Lifestyle: Heavily monetized Men’s life from a biblical perspective,
Vlad Savchuk 1.33 M followers quote: Best Bible Translation is any translation you can study and memorize. 3 secrets to abiding in the spirit, Full Gospel. Spiritual warfare.
Since joseph didn’t study with me to find the answers but as the brute beast as the Ephesians he is, I will now give my response to his final response before I removed him from my channel as i promised:
The NEW homework assignment is to READ THE CASE STUDY and Harmonize Biblical Hatred and Love
To harmonize 1 Corinthians 13 as joseph states with Paul telling Timothy and Titus to call out false teachers, to rebuke them sharply. Why Paul and Jesus called false teachers wicked, false, wolves, dogs, FOOLS, Reprobates.
Why PERFECT LOVE IS PERFECT JUSTICE and demands Judgement and why we are to MARK THEM and JUDGE THEM.
To Mark Someone, Philippians 3:17 KJB Understanding this in a nutshell. (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
We are to Judge - Understanding Judgment in the Realm (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
The Holy Terror of Proverbs 15:11
The Holy Terror of Proverbs 15:11 WAKE UP TIME (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
1 John 4:18
“There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.”
King James Version (KJV)
UNDERSTAND WHY TRUE LOVE WITHSTANDS THE TEST OF JUDGMENT
See scriptures related to G5401
Work out your SALVATION with FEAR And Trembling
Another Paradox
I am SICK WITH LOVE For my Shepherd My Lord Jesus Christ
SICK in H2470 = grieve (godly sorrow) Pierced - BORE A HOLE the spot to be drilled to make an indentation to accept the drill and the beginning of the drilling as the drill can easily slip out PIERCED WOUND - In context of SoS is a PIERCING PAIN because of the LOVE for our Shepherd and this piercing PAIN IS THE WORD BESEECH (request intervention from a sickness (grieving heart), PRAY, INTREAT.
THIS IS TRUE LOVE that Jesus used in the superlative with the King James suffix eth in John 21 in the TRUEST HIGHEST LOVE that Peter kept responding with LOVE and NOT LOVEST. See my detailed study in this that the Lord led me into 1 John Chapter 4 before I could leave for Vietnam. I had to understand LOVE that it was THE LORD’S PASSION HIS PIERCING GRIEF for the Lost that all could come to salvation.
THIS IS NOT THE SAME EXPRESSION OF LOVE SPOKEN OF BY PAUL IN 1 CORINTHIANS 13 that details how when using our spiritual gifts we must always work in the affection and care for our brethren.
IF IT WERE THEN CHARITY AND NOT LOVE WOULD HAVE BEEN USED. ALSO SEE WHY PAUL ALSO DISTINGUISHED PHILEO LOVE BELOE from LOVE
TESTIMONY I must share because often people tell me I am hateful.
I could NOT CARE LESS about this accusation, but the Lord has given me an unction to TEACH WHAT REAL LOVE LOOKS LIKE:
On a 10 day fast in San Diego California That began in Lanai Hawaii at a 5 star resort at 3Am on December 5th 2005 to go to Vietnam. That LOVE was nothing I had ever experienced beyond expression that was a PIERCING PAIN. And the Object of that PIERCING PAIN was LOVE FOR JESUS CHRIST and My Lord gave that to me to seek the lost and share the True Gospel the True Jesus Christ and NOT the false gospel leaven of the Laodicean Church.
That same piercing pain was to REBUKE SHARPLY the false shepherds who were leading the feeble minded to the PIT with them as the scribes (theologians) Pharisees (religious leaders so called pastors)
Matthew 23:15
King James Version
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Song of Songs 2:5, 5:8
Song of Solomon 5:8
“I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if ye find my beloved, that ye tell him, that I am sick of love.”
King James Version (KJV)
Later we see these daughters of Jerusalem as well as the WATCHMEN (The Laodicean Church driven by the false doctrine of their false shepherds) attack the Shulamite (The Bride, the True Church of Philadelphia).
NOTE: Look for forthcoming study on The Song of Solomon.
I am (sick) verb of (preposition Looking at OF
Cause = answers why: The EFFECT of the Object Love on the verb Sick (in context of a piercing pain). In other words the piercing pain is affected by the Object LOVE hence the reason for the PAIN.
Also the Result = How something the piercing pain is impacted by BECAUSE OF DUE TO LOVE.
The Opposite is:
LOVE SICK = UNREQUITED LOVE. Which causes FEAR Because of Romans 1:18-24, see 1 John 4.
LOVE SICK = A compound noun whereby Love as a noun = Sick as a noun means A person is afflicted by Love
afflict (v.)
late 14c., "to cast down" (a sense now obsolete), from Old French aflicter, from Latin afflictare "to damage, harass, torment," frequentative of affligere (past participle afflictus) "to dash down, overthrow," from ad "to" (see ad-) + fligere (past participle flictus) "to strike."
This is reconstructed to be from PIE root *bhlig- "to strike" (source also of Greek phlibein "to press, crush," Czech blizna "scar," Welsh blif "catapult"). The weakened or transferred meaning "to trouble in body or mind, harass, distress," is attested from 1530s. Related: Afflicted; afflicting.
affliction (n.)
c. 1300, affliccioun, "misery, sorrow, pain, distress" (originally especially "self-inflicted pain, self-mortification, religious asceticism"
ascetic (adj.)
1640s, "practicing rigorous self-denial as a religious exercise," from Latinized form of Greek asketikos "rigorously self-disciplined, laborious," from asketēs "monk, hermit," earlier "skilled worker, one who practices an art or trade," especially "athlete, one in training for the arena," from askein "to exercise, train," especially "to train for athletic competition, practice gymnastics, exercise," perhaps originally "to fashion material, embellish or refine material."
The Greek word was applied by the stoics to the controlling of the appetites and passions as the path to virtue and was picked up from them by the early Christians. The figurative sense of "unduly strict or austere" also is from 1640s. Related: Ascetical (1610s).
also from 1640s
ascetic (n.)
1650s, "one rigorous in self-denial," especially as an act of religious devotion; 1670s, Ascetic, "one of the early Christians who retired to the desert to live solitary lives of meditation, self-denial, and prayer," from ascetic (adj.).
un·re·quit·ed
[ˌənrəˈkwīdəd]
adjective
unrequited (adjective)
(of a feeling, especially love) not returned or rewarded:
"he's been pining with unrequited love"
Requite - To return with the Like - Oxford English Dictionary page 2504
From Repay - repay = GIVE IN RETURN
mid-15c., repaien, "pay back, refund," from Old French repaier, repaiier, "pay back, give in return,"
Unrequited = unrescued Oxford English Dictionary page 3535
Hence why the UNIVERSALISTS want to believe Hell is not for humans. The know by Romans 1:18-24 what's coming and they are TERRIFIED!
LOOK AT Rodney Belieu the Reprobate False Teacher leading people to HELL WITH LOVE
REBUKING Rodney Beaulieu at Grace Bible Church GBC (thethirdheaventraveler.com
While working on the blog to joseph had a major huge revelation on love while addressing his completely distorted interpretation on 1 Corinthians 13 Charity, which led to 1 John 4 :10 which led to SofS 2:5, 5:8.
Make no mistake 1 Corinthians 13 is Paul's teaching that the SPIRITUAL GIFTS MUST BE GOVERNED IN LOVE the care for the BRETREN (NOT FALSE TEACHERS). If joseph would actually study 1Corinthians 13:4-7 KJB he would realize he was easily provoked, seeking evil to curse my work when I came in Love, behaved unseemly, and is proud and willing to study to rejoice in the TRUTH
It is most clear this led me to understand joseph is afflicted from not receiving the LOVE he yearns FOR because he seeks in in man and NOT the MASTER.
He yearns as the daughters of Jerusalem the fakes who want to be sick of love which is true love of the SHULAMITE - The TRUE BRIDE. Sick of LOVE = love is the object of whereas love sick is Unrequited Love. 1 John 4:4-13.
When I did a deep study on 1 Corinthians 13, what joseph accused me of violating it drove me to SICK OF LOVE = TRUE LOVE VS The Laodicean Church's LOVE SICK condition.
Which led me to title the blog to joseph as
My Love Sick poster Boy the FOOL who wanders this earth in unrequited LOVE
perfect LOVE CAST OUT FEAR which led to my 10 day fast before I went to Vietnam where I had to had to find perfect love in Christ and not religion meditated and prayed for understanding of 1 John 4 before I could go to Vietnam.
Jesus and I Hate the Deeds of the Nicolaitans (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
Why the King James Bible uses Charity in 1 Corinthians 13 and NOT Love.
Charity is NOT the form of agape or Godly Love but rather the context of a deep affectionate brotherly love.
Charity is NOT the form of agape or Godly Love but rather the context of a deep affectionate brotherly love. False teachers always remove the context of 1 Corinthians 13 which is affection for one another IN THE BODY of Christ is first and foremost, especially when exercising SPIRITUAL GIFTS.
Jesus showed us a deeper love than Charity in John
John 21:15-17
King James Version
15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
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However, Charity is used in every instance in scripture especially the 1 Corinthians 13 examples as BROTHERLY LOVE of the Brethren to be esteemed over the gifts of the spirit as in speaking in tongues.
YES Christians have a deep love and care of feelings for the Brethren because of the Holy Spirit in their lives but nevertheless this is an emotional expression of the SOUL and NOT the HIGHEST form of God’s love. If this were the case the King James Translators would not have used LOVE in John 21 when Jesus uses the SUPERLATIVE “EST” suffix. See my detailed study
https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2022/04/understand-bible-from-workman-approved.html
https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2023/09/what-is-doctrine-deep-study-we-must.html
1-20 of 24 verses containing the word “charity”
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1 Cor 8:1
...all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
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1 Cor 13:1
...of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding...
26
1 Cor 13:2
...I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
26
1 Cor 13:3
...body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
26
1 Cor 13:4
Charity suffereth long, and is kind;...
26
1 Cor 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall...
26
1 Cor 13:13
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest...
26
1 Cor 14:1
Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but...
26
1 Cor 16:14
Let all your things be done with charity.
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Col 3:14
...all these things put on charity, which is the bond of...
26
1 Th 3:6
...tidings of your faith and charity, and that ye have good...
26
2 Th 1:3
...faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you...
26
1 Tim 1:5
Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of...
26
1 Tim 2:15
...they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
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1 Tim 4:12
...in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in...
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2 Tim 2:22
...lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call...
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2 Tim 3:10
...of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
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Tit 2:2
...sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
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1 Pet 4:8
...above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall...
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1 Pet 5:14
...ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are...
2 Pet 1:7
And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
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3 Jn 1:6
...have borne witness of thy charity before the church: whom if...
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Jud 1:12
...spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you,...
26
Rev 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and…
Show me how we harmonize these CHARITY scriptures with What Paul tells Timothy and Titus as follows:
Harmonize
Christian love toward fellow Christians (the following are all 24 verses that have “charity”
And
CHARITY
Charity Oxford English Dictionary page 383; Vulgate Caritas. Affectionate among the brethren. The 1611 used love and charity but love 86 more times than Wycliff used from Vulgate to bring Charity as agape. AFFECTIONATE, FONDNESS, CARING. FEELING CARING.
Wyclif and the Rhemish version regularly rendered the Vulgate dilectio by 'love,' caritas by 'charity.' But the 16th c. Eng. versions from Tindale to 1611, while rendering agape sometimes 'love,' sometimes 'charity,' did not follow the dilectio and caritas of the Vulgate, but used 'love' more often (about 86 times), confining 'charity' to 26 passages in the Pauline and certain of the Catholic Epistles (not in I John), and the Apocalypse ....
EXAMPLE: Wycliff Romans 12:10 loving together the charity of brotherhood. Each come before to worship (the) other [Coming before together in honour];
King James Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
1 Corinthians 13 If I speak with tongues of men and of angels, and I have not charity, I am made as brass sounding, or a cymbal tinkling.
Tyndale: 1Though I spake with the tonges of me and angels and yet had no love I were eve as soundinge brasse: or as a tynklynge Cymball. 2
charity (n.)
late Old English, "benevolence for the poor," also "Christian love in its highest manifestation," from Old French charité "(Christian) charity, mercy, compassion; alms; charitable foundation" (12c.), from Latin caritatem (nominative caritas) "costliness; esteem, affection," from carus "dear, valued
The sense of "charitable foundation or institution" in English is attested by 1690s. The meaning "liberality in judging others or their actions" is from late 15c. A charity-school (1680s) educated (and sometimes housed and fed) poor children and was maintained by voluntary contributions or bequests.
also from 12c.
Latin caritas
Apart from this original meaning, charity is etymologically linked to Christianity, with the word originally entering the English language through the Old French word charité, which derived from the Latin caritas, a word commonly used in the Vulgate New Testament to translate the Greek word agape (ἀγάπη), a distinct form of love.
What is ‘Cariño’ in Spanish?
In Spanish, cariño is a word that is directly linked to love and affection. In general terms, cariño refers to a feeling. However, it’s also a term that Spaniards use as a way to call their loved ones. Additionally, its plural form cariños, refers to some types of displays of affection.
If referring to a feeling, cariño means ‘fondness’ or ‘affection’.
When used as a nickname, cariño can be translated as ‘darling’, ‘dear’ or ‘honey’.
The plural form cariños is a word that refers to a physical way of showing affection. It can be translated as ‘caresses’.
Vulgate manuscripts - Wikipedia
Though the Vulgate exists in many forms, a number of early manuscripts containing or reflecting the Vulgate survive today. Dating from the 8th century, the Codex Amiatinus is the earliest surviving manuscript of the complete Vulgate Bible. The Codex Fuldensis, dating from around 547, contains most of the … See more
LXX
The text of the Septuagint is contained in a few early, but not necessarily reliable, manuscripts. The best known of these are the Codex Vaticanus (B) and the Codex Sinaiticus (S), both dating from the 4th century ce, and the Codex Alexandrinus (A) from the 5th century. There are also numerous earlier papyrus fragments and many later manuscripts.
The lies and horrors presented in this link whereby over and over again they (unknown sources who use the NASB and Septuagint and Vulgate) insist Apage to Charity is Never used as an emotional feeling, but when you actually study the full meaning of Agape it is precisely an emotional feeling of brotherly Love. The Lie from HELL is that apage has always been taught by the Laodicean Church as GODLY LOVE and the emotional Brotherly Love of affection is the feeling but Godly love is SPIRITUAL of the Holy Spirit and for this precise reason the King James Translators as well as Tyndale used LOVE 86 more times than the VULGATE translation which Wycliff (the closet Jesuit )used.
The Joke of the Ages: John Wycliff and Martin Luther The Protestant Reformation.
Questions too hard to ask: Why didn’t Tyndale use Wycliff’s translation? Why was William Tyndale tortured and murdered by the Vatican but Wycliff and Luther were NOT???
The Wycliffe Bible, also known as the Wycliffite Bible, was indeed based on the Latin Vulgate. It was the first complete translation of the Bible into English and was believed to have been made under the direction or instigation of John Wycliffe, an English theologian and Oxford professor, during the period from approximately 1382 to 1395 1.
LOOK AT THIS PERVERSION BELOW HERE IN THE TRANSLATIONS: Compare to KING JAMES it is blasphemous: This kind of garbage is where joseph and his kind get fed.
Love-Agape (Greek Word Study) | Precept Austin
ALL THE USE OF
AGAPE IN THE SEPTUAGINT
Agape - 13v in the Septuagint
2 Samuel 13:15 Then Amnon hated her with a very great hatred; for the hatred with which he hated her was greater than the love with which he had loved her. And Amnon said to her, "Get up, go away!"
Ecclesiastes 9:1 For I have taken all this to my heart and explain it that righteous men, wise men, and their deeds are in the hand of God. Man does not know whether it will be love or hatred; anything awaits him.
6 Indeed their love, their hate and their zeal have already perished, and they will no longer have a share in all that is done under the sun.
Song of Solomon 2:4 "He has brought me to his banquet hall, And his banner over me is love.
5 "Sustain me with raisin cakes, Refresh me with apples, Because I am lovesick.
7 "I adjure you, O daughters of Jerusalem, By the gazelles or by the hinds of the field, That you do not arouse or awaken my love Until she pleases."
Song of Solomon 3:5 "I adjure you, O daughters of Jerusalem, By the gazelles or by the hinds of the field, That you will not arouse or awaken my love Until she pleases."
10 "He made its posts of silver, Its back of gold And its seat of purple fabric, With its interior lovingly fitted out By the daughters of Jerusalem.
Song of Solomon 5:8 "I adjure you, O daughters of Jerusalem, If you find my beloved, As to what you will tell him: For I am lovesick."
Song of Solomon 7:6 "How beautiful and how delightful you are, My love, with all your charms!
Song of Solomon 8:4 "I want you to swear, O daughters of Jerusalem, Do not arouse or awaken my love Until she pleases."
6 "Put me like a seal over your heart, Like a seal on your arm. For love is as strong as death, Jealousy is as severe as Sheol; Its flashes are flashes of fire, The very flame of the LORD.
7 "Many waters cannot quench love, Nor will rivers overflow it; If a man were to give all the riches of his house for love, It would be utterly despised."
Jeremiah 2:2 "Go and proclaim in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, 'Thus says the LORD, "I remember concerning you the devotion of your youth, The love of your betrothals, Your following after Me in the wilderness, Through a land not sown.
PHILEO
Strong's Number G5360 matches the Greek φιλαδελφία (philadelphia),
which occurs 6 times in 5 verses in the TR Greek.
View OT results in the LXX Greek concordance
View NT results in the MGNT Greek concordance
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Rom 12:10Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; G5360 in honour preferring one another;
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1Th 4:9But as touching brotherly love G5360 ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.
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Heb 13:1Let brotherly love G5360 continue.
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1Pe 1:22Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, G5360 see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
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2Pe 1:7And to godliness brotherly kindness; G5360 and to brotherly kindness G5360 charity.
1 John
Chapter 4
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
7Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
8He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
15Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
16And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
17Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
19We love him, because he first loved us.
20If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
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