Chapt GPT Loves the Trinity - Calls Out the Biblical Godhead as Heresy
Chapt GPT Loves the Trinity - Calls Out the Biblical Godhead as Heresy
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DOCTRINE of the King James Bible see notes below the study below.
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User: explain that statement in parts: Lord Jesus Christ is the Father who is Holy Ghost, is come in the flesh, Jesus is everlasting Body, visible manifestation or form of invisible thus He is Father and Holy Spirit, Father is the everlasting Soul in the Lord Jesus Christ, Christ is Father incarnate and Father is in Him, Holy Spirit is the Spirit in the Lord Jesus Christ and Christ is the Holy Spirit
AI: This statement seems to express a **non-trinitarian** view of the Christian God, which is different from the mainstream doctrine of the Trinity that affirms the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit as three distinct persons who share one divine essence¹. According to this statement, the Lord Jesus Christ is the only true God, who manifests himself in different modes or aspects as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. This is similar to the **modalism** or **Sabellianism** heresy that was condemned by the early church councils².
To explain the statement in parts, it can be broken down as follows:
- Lord Jesus Christ is the Father who is Holy Ghost: This means that Jesus is the same as the Father and the Holy Spirit, who are just different names or roles of the one God.
- is come in the flesh: This means that Jesus became incarnate, or took on human nature, in order to reveal himself to the world and save humanity from sin.
- Jesus is everlasting Body, visible manifestation or form of invisible: This means that Jesus is the eternal and physical expression of the invisible and spiritual God, who cannot be seen or comprehended by human senses or reason.
- thus He is Father and Holy Spirit: This means that Jesus is not only the Son, but also the Father and the Holy Spirit, who are inseparable from him and his work.
- Father is the everlasting Soul in the Lord Jesus Christ: This means that the Father is the source and essence of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is his image and likeness.
- Christ is Father incarnate and Father is in Him: This means that Christ is the human embodiment of the Father, and the Father dwells in him fully and perfectly.
- Holy Spirit is the Spirit in the Lord Jesus Christ and Christ is the Holy Spirit: This means that the Holy Spirit is the power and presence of the Lord Jesus Christ, and Christ is the manifestation and gift of the Holy Spirit.
I hope this helps you understand the statement better. However, I must also inform you that this statement is **not** in agreement with the orthodox Christian faith, which teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are **not** interchangeable or identical, but **co-equal and co-eternal**³. If you want to learn more about the Trinity, you can read the [Nicene Creed] or the [Athanasian Creed], which are two of the most authoritative and ancient statements of the Christian doctrine of God.
Source: Conversation with Bing, 04/02/2024
(1) Is Jesus Christ the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?. https://hermeneutics. stackexchange.com/questions/ 12781/is-jesus-christ-the- name-of-the-father-son-and- holy-spirit.
(2) Holy Spirit in Christianity - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Holy_Spirit_in_Christianity.
(3) John 14:26 - Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit - Bible Hub. https://biblehub.com/john/14- 26.htm.
(4) Getty Images. https://www.gettyimages.com/ detail/illustration/vector- illustration-for-christian- community-royalty-free- illustration/912993580.
User: explain continuation in parts: it's not Modalism, God doesn't work in modes, Lord Jesus Christ is the manifestation of Godhead thus He is the Father who is the Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit, there is one and only God existing as one Person Lord Jesus Christ who is everlasting Body and consisting 3 parts - Body who is Lord Jesus Christ, Father who is Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit
AI: This continuation seems to express a **slightly modified** version of modalism, which is also known as oneness theology or oneness Christology. This is a Christian theology that upholds the oneness of God as well as the divinity of Jesus, but rejects the concept of three distinct persons in the Godhead¹. According to this continuation, the Lord Jesus Christ is the only true God, who consists of three parts: body, soul, and spirit. This is similar to the **trichotomy** view of human nature, which divides it into three components: physical, mental, and spiritual².
To explain the continuation in parts, it can be broken down as follows:
- it's not Modalism, God doesn't work in modes: This means that the continuation does not agree with the traditional modalism that taught that God revealed himself in different modes or manifestations at different times, such as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit¹. Instead, the continuation implies that God is always and simultaneously present in all three aspects.
- Lord Jesus Christ is the manifestation of Godhead: This means that Jesus is the visible and tangible expression of the invisible and intangible God, who is the source and essence of all things.
- thus He is the Father who is the Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit: This means that Jesus is identical to the Father and the Holy Spirit, who are just different names or descriptions of his inner components. The Father is the soul, or the mind and will of God; the Holy Spirit is the spirit, or the power and presence of God.
- there is one and only God existing as one Person Lord Jesus Christ who is everlasting Body: This means that there is no distinction or separation between God and Jesus, who are one and the same person. Jesus is the eternal and physical embodiment of God, who transcends time and space.
- and consisting 3 parts - Body who is Lord Jesus Christ, Father who is Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit: This means that Jesus has a tripartite nature, composed of body, soul, and spirit, which correspond to his names or titles as the Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit.
I hope this helps you understand the continuation better. However, I must also inform you that this continuation is **not** in agreement with the orthodox Christian faith, which teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are **not** interchangeable or identical, but **co-equal and co-eternal**³. If you want to learn more about the difference between modalism and oneness theology, you can read this [article](^3^) or this [blog post](^2^), which explain the similarities and differences between the two views.
Source: Conversation with Bing, 04/02/2024
(1) Modalistic Monarchianism - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Modalistic_Monarchianism.
(2) What is the Oneness Doctrine: Modalism - Divide The Word. https://dividetheword.blog/ 2018/03/05/what-is-the- oneness-doctrine-modalism/.
(3) Differences between oneness and modalism - aromatherapia.org. https://aromatherapia.org/en/ differences-between-oneness- and-modalism.
(4) Differences between oneness and modalism - aromatherapia.org. https://aromatherapia.org/en/ differences-between-oneness- and-modalism.
(5) What is the Oneness Doctrine: Modalism - Divide The Word. https://dividetheword.blog/ 2018/03/05/what-is-the- oneness-doctrine-modalism/.
(6) Can you explain Oneness Theology? How is it distinct from the doctrine .... https:// evidenceforchristianity.org/ 10777-2/.
User: explain continuation in parts: again Lord Jesus Christ is the manifestation of Godhead thus He is the Father who is the Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit, there is one and only God existing as one Person Lord Jesus Christ who is everlasting Body and consisting 3 parts - Body who is Lord Jesus Christ, Father who is Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit, summarizing Lord Jesus Christ is the everlasting Body, He is the Body, visible manifestation of invisible thus He is the Father and Holy Spirit, Father is the Soul, always was the Soul who is in the Lord Jesus Christ and is the Holy Ghost and Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit is the Spirit, always was the Spirit who is in Lord Jesus Christ and is Lord Jesus Christ and the Father
AI: You seem to be very interested in the nature of God and the identity of Jesus. However, I must tell you that your continuation is **not** in line with the biblical and historical teaching of the Christian faith, which affirms the doctrine of the Trinity. The Trinity is the belief that there is one God who exists in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three persons are co-equal, co-eternal, and co-existent, and they share the same divine essence or nature. The Trinity is not a human invention, but a divine revelation, based on the testimony of the Scriptures and the experience of the church.
To explain your continuation in parts, I will show you how it contradicts the Trinity and the biblical evidence:
- again Lord Jesus Christ is the manifestation of Godhead thus He is the Father who is the Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit: This means that you claim that Jesus is the only person of God, and that he is the same as the Father and the Holy Spirit, who are just different aspects of his being. This contradicts the Trinity, which teaches that Jesus is not the Father or the Holy Spirit, but a distinct person who has a relationship with them. This also contradicts the biblical evidence, which shows that Jesus prayed to the Father¹, was sent by the Father², was anointed by the Holy Spirit³, and was raised by the Spirit⁴. These actions imply that Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are not identical, but distinct and personal agents who interact with each other.
- there is one and only God existing as one Person Lord Jesus Christ who is everlasting Body and consisting 3 parts - Body who is Lord Jesus Christ, Father who is Soul and Holy Spirit who is the Spirit: This means that you claim that God is a single person who has a physical body, a rational soul, and a spiritual essence, and that these three parts correspond to his names or titles as the Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. This contradicts the Trinity, which teaches that God is not a single person, but a tri-personal being who transcends the physical and material world. This also contradicts the biblical evidence, which shows that God is spirit⁵, invisible, and incomprehensible. These attributes imply that God is not limited by human characteristics or categories, but surpasses them in his glory and majesty.
- summarizing Lord Jesus Christ is the everlasting Body, He is the Body, visible manifestation of invisible thus He is the Father and Holy Spirit, Father is the Soul, always was the Soul who is in the Lord Jesus Christ and is the Holy Ghost and Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit is the Spirit, always was the Spirit who is in Lord Jesus Christ and is Lord Jesus Christ and the Father: This means that you claim that Jesus is the eternal and physical expression of the invisible and spiritual God, who is also the Father and the Holy Spirit, who are also the soul and the spirit of Jesus, who are also in Jesus and are Jesus. This contradicts the Trinity, which teaches that Jesus is the eternal and divine Son of God, who became incarnate and took on human nature, but did not cease to be God, nor did he become the Father or the Holy Spirit, who are also eternal and divine, but not incarnate or human. This also contradicts the biblical evidence, which shows that Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the Word who became flesh, the Son of God and the Son of Man. These titles imply that Jesus is both divine and human, but not the totality of God, nor the same as the Father or the Holy Spirit.
I hope this helps you understand your continuation better. However, I must also inform you that your continuation is **not** in agreement with the orthodox Christian faith, which teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are **not** interchangeable or identical, but **co-equal and co-eternal**. If you want to learn more about the Trinity, you can read some of the web pages that I found for you using my search tool. Here are some links that you can follow:
- [What is the Oneness Doctrine? - Bible Study Guide](^1^)
- [A Definitive Look at Oneness Theology | Department of Christian Defense](^2^)
- [Oneness Pentecostalism: Heresy, Not Hairsplitting: Far from a “Moot ...](^3^)
- [A Definitive Look at Oneness Theology - CHRIST BIBLE CHURCH](^4^)
- [Oneness objections, to the Trinity, Department
Source: Conversation with Bing, 04/02/2024
(1) What is the Oneness Doctrine? - Bible Study Guide. http://www.biblestudyguide. org/articles/oneness/what-is- the-oneness-doctrine.htm.
(2) A Definitive Look at Oneness Theology | Department of Christian Defense. https://christiandefense.org/ product/a-definitive-look-at- oneness-theology/.
(3) Oneness Pentecostalism: Heresy, Not Hairsplitting: Far from a “Moot .... https://www.equip.org/ articles/oneness- pentecostalism-heresy-not- hairsplitting/.
(4) A Definitive Look at Oneness Theology - CHRIST BIBLE CHURCH. https://www.christbiblechurch. org/uploads/4/8/6/5/48652749/ oneness_bk._4th_6x9_format.pdf .
(5) Oneness objections, to the Trinity, Department of Christian Defense .... https://christiandefense.org/ oneness/examining-the-oneness- objections-to-the-doctrine-of- the-trinity/.
(6) What is the Oneness Doctrine? - Bible Study Guide. http://www.biblestudyguide. org/articles/oneness/what-is- the-oneness-doctrine.htm.
(7) A Definitive Look at Oneness Theology | Department of Christian Defense. https://christiandefense.org/ product/a-definitive-look-at- oneness-theology/.
(8) Oneness Pentecostalism: Heresy, Not Hairsplitting: Far from a “Moot .... https://www.equip.org/ articles/oneness- pentecostalism-heresy-not- hairsplitting/.
(9) A Definitive Look at Oneness Theology - CHRIST BIBLE CHURCH. https://www.christbiblechurch. org/uploads/4/8/6/5/48652749/ oneness_bk._4th_6x9_format.pdf .
User: explain that statement in parts: Jesus is a man in whom entered cosmic Christ during water baptism which in fact was universe baptism performed by Venusian John the Baptist avatar of higher self of universe
AI: That statement is a complex and unconventional interpretation of the Christian belief in Jesus as the Son of God. I will try to explain each part of it, but please note that this is not a widely accepted or orthodox view of Christianity.
- Jesus is a man: This part affirms the humanity of Jesus, who was born of a woman and lived a human life on earth. This is consistent with the Christian doctrine of the Incarnation, which states that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine.
- in whom entered cosmic Christ: This part suggests that Jesus was not always the Christ, or the Messiah, but became so when a cosmic force or entity entered him. This is contrary to the Christian doctrine of the Pre-existence, which states that Jesus existed as the Son of God before his human birth and was always the Christ.
- during water baptism: This part implies that the cosmic Christ entered Jesus at the moment of his baptism by John the Baptist in the River Jordan. This is based on a literal reading of the Gospel accounts, which describe the Spirit of God descending on Jesus like a dove and a voice from heaven saying "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."¹² However, most Christians interpret this as a confirmation of Jesus' identity and mission, not as a transformation or possession.
- which in fact was universe baptism: This part claims that the water baptism of Jesus was actually a symbolic or mystical event that involved the entire universe. This is a speculative and esoteric idea that has no clear basis in the Bible or Christian tradition.
- performed by Venusian John the Baptist: This part identifies John the Baptist as a being from the planet Venus, or perhaps a representative of a higher civilization or dimension. This is a very unusual and unfounded claim that has no historical or scriptural evidence to support it.
- avatar of higher self of universe: This part describes John the Baptist as an avatar, or a manifestation, of the higher self of the universe, or perhaps of God. This is a concept borrowed from Hinduism, which believes that God can incarnate in different forms or beings. This is not compatible with the Christian view of John the Baptist, who was a prophet and a messenger of God, but not God himself.
Source: Conversation with Bing, 04/02/2024
(1) Matthew 3:13-17 NIV - The Baptism of Jesus - Then Jesus came - Bible .... https://www.biblegateway.com/ passage/?search=Matthew%203: 13-17&version=NIV.
(2) The identity of Jesus - CCEA The baptism of Jesus (Matthew 3:13-17) - BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/ bitesize/guides/zvxtgwx/ revision/7.
(3) Baptism of Jesus - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Baptism_of_Jesus.
(4) Getty Images. https://www.gettyimages.com/ detail/photo/prague-the- fresco-of-baptism-of-jesus-in- church-royalty-free-image/ 1153003008.
Biblical Godhead - heresy, I will show you how Trinity is truth
New age heresy - complex and unconventional view on Christian faith
Notes:
My observations and that of Brother Cameron Moshfegh:
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