CASE STUDY of another Shipwrecked Bible Student #discipleship #doctrinematters
Disclaimer:
In the humility of Jesus Christ by His great GRACE I declare:
In accordance with 1 Corinthians 10:11 (For our ESAMPLES - (something that is a pattern that shows us an example to learn from), I am writing this CASE STUDY as a lesson for us to learn from.
I am in no way using this to mock or pick on someone. I am not proclaiming to have all the answers. And although I am a licensed teacher and have literally thousands of students in my life, I have always lived by the motto: EVERY GOOD TEACHER IS A GREAT STUDENT." I have always learned from my students and have had several occasions - too many to count actually - whereby my students have grasped the subject in a far deeper way than I had. Even in my bible teaching which is my favorite and my past 20 years of devotion, I have always experienced bible study sessions whereby I'm learning and become the student. NONE OF US HAS ALL THE ANSWERS AND WE ARE ALL STUDENTS OF DOCTRINE
1 Timothy 1:19
“Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:”
King James Version (KJV)
2 Timothy 3:7
“Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
King James Version (KJV)
Preface:
Sadly, a few days ago I had to part ways with a young mentor I will name as S whom I had been disciplining for nearly a year. English is not his first language although he does write in English fairly well. It seems he has a good comprehension of written English. I've never spoken him on the phone.
S is Chinese, from Singapore and currently studying at University in China. He is a diligent student and studies and reads my Blogs in detail and has learned a great deal and grown in spiritual maturity rapidly especially understanding the Godhead and the FINAL AUTHORITY of the King James Bible.
I have had to have a tremendous amount of patience with this young man as he has been relentless in his probing questioning of which I have stayed up in the late hours answering him until every detail of his questioning was thoroughly answered. I have prayed for him extensively.
A few months back S got stuck on one of my studies and he wrote and told me that one of my Blogs explaining some aspect of the Godhead was too difficult to understand and that my writing was too cumbersome and cumbersome and complex to understand.
Without asking Brother Cameron's permission I sent S Cameron's email and asked S to present his questions to Cameron since Cameron is better writer than me. I was in no way offended that S could not understand the way I expressed myself and in the hopes and prayers that someone of superior ability to conceptualize and express the English language than I am might disciple S properly.
FIRST RED FLAG.
Now in hindsight I saw the first major red flag by the way S seemed to be trying to find a way to trap me in my explanation of the Godhead when trying to respond to a Trinitarian regarding one of the favorite scriptures of the Trinity - perhaps it was 1 John 5:7.
Truthfully, I could see some of the same elements I had seen before in some of my bible study students. See how this case study reveals this.
Tragically for them, My Godhead student turns out to be a TRINITARIAN
This is where someone is learning and then ends up just wasting time and testing and finally the truth comes out: Tragically, Brother Cameron "wasted" a great deal of his precious time in mentoring and disciplining S. Cameron explained in painful and very clear steps what I was stating and using scripture in detail. But S kept asking foolishly over and over again in questionable ways. Finally, Cameron realized he was casting pearls to the swine and very accurately stated that S was "EVER LEARNING YET NEVER COMING TO THE TRUTH" 2 Timothy 3:7 KJB.
I agreed and told S that we were sorry, and we were praying for him. Cameron blocked him and I stopped responding to him.
A few months later S sent me a very heavy email stating that he apologized for not seeing what was so clear and that now he finally understood and wanted to move on from that place and was certain "without doubt" that God was NOT 3 separate persons.
Subsequently, in a maddening series of emails S wanted to discuss the FINAL AUTHORITY OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE as he found several websites that were KING JAMES BIBLE studies and listed "serious" errors in the King James bible. It was obvious S had serious doubts.
Understanding this I spent weeks diligently going over why these places were WICKED and here is one of the CASE STUDIES I sent S. This is the website S had stumbled on this website KJV GOSPEL Drew Costen and was bewitched by Costen's writing.
The Wicked Child of the Devil Drew Costen at KJV GOSPEL Resources is hard at work
Over and over and over again I pleaded with S to go back to the basics to be a good Berean to study the King James Bible here in my detailed study on how to study and understand the King James Bible.
Understand the Bible:
Understand the Bible - From a Workman Approved unto God by His Grace (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
Background Case Study for this Study
Case Study of the Dangers of Improper Study of God's Word
ROBERT BREAKER'S DOCTRINE OF DEMONS
https://youtu.be/vHxNMoZUcwU?si=_OsbjQWp00OvuY1w
It was soon growing more and more clear that S was exactly the same as M in that he was indeed ever learning and yet never coming to the knowledge of the TRUTH but instead was draining my time like an emotional VAMPIRE. Even my wife was at this time warning me to wake up as I read her some of the email exchanges. I remember clearly telling my wife that I was going to soon come to the TRUTH and I knew God would tell me when to PULL THE PLUG and kick S out. And then it happened when S sent me the following email quote that shifted gears from the King James Bible to SALVATION - The Gospel.
"You should add Romans 3:25 to your Blog:
The Third Heaven Traveler
This Blog is about our Spiritual Life IN Jesus Christ and Him IN us who believe on Him and how we apply this existence to our physical world. The Gospel is found 1 Corinthians 15:1-4KJV By the Grace of God this Blog is my written record of a "third heaven traveler", someone whose spirit lives in Christ in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6). Who is passing through this world and like Abraham a stranger and a pilgrim, rejecting those "cities" (religions) built by the hands of men. Maranatha!"
S writes:
Robert Breaker is someone who posts on YouTube, he is a KJBO person and likes to preach about the blood stained gospel.
Also, about how someone is not saved without the blood.
Except he is getting this info without a him, I am not sure.
My Response:
YES, I JUST KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO GO DOWN THAT HOLE. I'm going to have to do a study on this because Breaker is causing many to SHIPWRECK and there are others out there who ADD ONTO THE GOSPEL.
WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE BLOOD IS WHAT CLEANS AND ERASES OUR SINS IT IS HOW WE ARE WASHED AND STAND AS RIGHTEOUS BUT THIS IS NOT THE GOSPEL THE GOSPEL IS TO BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, THAT HE WAS BURIED AND THAT HE ROSE AGAIN THE 3RD DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.
PERIOD... BELIEF IN THAT ACTION.
BUT TO GO INTO BELIEVING THE BLOOD GOES DOWN INTO A RABBIT HOLE.
S
to me
I disagree
My Response:
Understanding the blood is part of discipleship and learning in greater depth . But the simplicity of the GOSPEL is BELIEVE CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, HE WAS BURIED, AND HE ROSE AGAIN THE 3RD DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.
PERIOD!
Can you understand that this is the GOSPEL?
S writes:
So, even if never heard blood, will still be saved if believe
rest?
Explain Romans 3:25 - faith in his blood.
MUST BELIEVE THE BLOOD!
My response:
Romans 3:25 does NOT say BELIEVE IN THE BLOOD.
REPEAT... ROMANS 3:25 DOES NOT SAY BELIEVE IN THE BLOOD.
REPEAT ROMANS 3:25 DOES NOT SAY BELIEVE IN THE BLOOD.
What Romans 3:25 KJB says is: "THROUGH FAITH G4102 IN HIS BLOOD. = This literally means in CONTEXT = the CONVICTION OF THE TRUTH TO TRUST.. REPEAT TO TRUST WHAT THE BLOOD DOES FOR US.
WHY DIDN'T THE KING JAMES BIBLE TRANSLATORS SAY: BELIEVE IN HIS BLOOD??? Why does Paul in the GOSPEL say BELIEVE and NOT HAVE Faith that Christ died for our sins???
We have to understand the contextual difference between the verbs: BELIEVE and TRUST.
BELIEVE happens BEFORE Trust. Believe literally means: TO BE PERSUADED of the TRUTH. And this can only happen by The Holy Ghost because it is the FAITH "OF" JESUS not our faith IN Jesus.
TRUST happens AFTER Believe. Trust literally means: TO RELY ON WHAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. This is the discipleship of our growth in the Knowledge of what WE HAVE ALREADY ATTAINED AFTER WE ARE SAVED. Paul is describing this to the Romans in Chapter 3. Read verses 1 through 23. Especially verses 21-23.
HOW CAN YOU HONESTLY HAVE FULL TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST IS OUR SIN OFFERING (PROPITIATION) UNLESS YOU FIRST BELIEVE THAT CHRIST DIED FOR YOUR SINS ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, WAS BURIED AND ROSE AGAIN THE 3RD DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES???
WHY IS IT FAITH IN... THE preposition IN and NOT Faith OF His Blood. Because the BLOOD is NOT Jesus Christ. Just like your Blood is NOT you.
Understanding the blood is part of discipleship and learning in greater depth .
PERIOD!
Can you understand that this is the GOSPEL?
S writes:
So, we must understand he died, rose again first and then we can trust blood?
I think M said the same as I was going to say.
By my thinking, I believe he also watched like me of a man named Robert Breaker on YouTube.
My response:
yes, I JUST KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO GO DOWN THAT HOLE. I'm going to have to do a study on this because Breaker is causing many to SHIPWRECK and there are others out there who ADD ONTO THE GOSPEL.
WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE BLOOD IS WHAT CLEANS AND ERASES OUR SINS IT IS HOW WE ARE WASHED AND STAND AS RIGHTEOUS BUT THIS IS NOT THE GOSPEL THE GOSPEL IS TO BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, THAT HE WAS BURIED AND THAT HE ROSE AGAIN THE 3RD DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.
PERIOD... BELIEF IN THAT ACTION.
BUT TO GO INTO BELIEVING THE BLOOD GOES DOWN INTO A RABBIT HOLE.
S
to me
So, we must understand he died, rose again first and then we can trust blood?
I respond:
YES YES YES YES YES YES
YOU GOT IT
BELIEF MUST COME FIRST THEN COMES THE TRUST IN WHAT HIS BLOOD DID FOR US.
THE GOSPEL IS BELIEVE AND THIS CAN ONLY COME BY THE FAITH OF... REPEAT FAITH OF REPEAT FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST. NOT OURSELVES.
AFTER....REPEAT AFTER WE ARE SAVED THEN WE GROW IN THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED TO US WHEN WE ARE SAVED. WE KNOW AS PAUL WRITES IN ROMANS 3:25 THAT OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS DECLARED ESTABLISHED BY HIS BLOOD AND THAT IS WHAT WE TRUST IN. THE WAY WE TRUST SOMETHING IS SPIRITUAL TO UNDERSTAND AND RELY UPON WHAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED...
TO SAY THE GOSPEL IS WE MUST BELIEVE IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST TO BE SAVED IS ANOTHER GOSPEL AND THE PERSON TEACHING THIS IS ACCURSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH GALATIANS 1:8.9..
THIS PUTS THE CART IN FRONT OF THE HORSE AND CAUSES GREAT CONFUSION.
S writes:
By grace are saved through 'faith' (in bloody death, burial, resurrection) and it's not by works lest any man may boast.
Amen.
Note: Salvation was different in dispensations.
For our dispensation: we must trust the blood and the death/bury/risen again to be saved.
So, trust blood, died, bury, is false gospel?
I send FINAL EMAIL:
S this is the second time you've heard this scripture
2 Timothy 3:7
“Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
King James Version (KJV)
End Quote.
I then BLOCKED S and have moved on...
Another one bites the DUST I will call this one “S” and prepared this CASE STUDY
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