Let's talk about Revelation Chapter 12 King James Bible
Revelation 12:5
“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”
King James Version (KJV)
The Sacred Cow of Revelation 12
CLAIM: Using astronomy is the same as astrology and is wicked witchcraft. I have detailed over and over again in the study links whereby God describes the constellations stars and planets. See the links and notes below.
This one verse (5) of Revelation Chapter 12 and the entire chapter for that matter has been extremely controversial over the years.
LIGHTENING ROD.
Revelation 12 ranks as the 5th most controversial work I've done that has stirred up so much hatred, strife among so called Christians.
I'm basing this on the number of emails and comments. Just to give the reader and viewer an idea here's a breakdown of topics ranked from the hightest - most hated - to least out of the top 7 topics:
1. King James ONLY.
2. The Godhead vs Trinity
3. The Mystery of the Church Exposing Hyper Dispensationalists
4. Exposing Zionism and their false teachers like Amir Tsarfati and John MacArthur Andy Woods, Joel Rosenberg, Jack Hibbs, etc.
5. Revelation 12
6. The Pretribulation Rapture
7. The Gospel
Personally, I have had at least 3 contentious encounters with other Christians on this matter. One the individual who is a strong believer in the Rapture of the Church went into a rage. His wife called me back and apologized, stunned that a simple disagreement would cause so much dissention and strife.
This is when I realized there was a spirit behind this to keep the status quo of the false teaching that the child is Jesus Christ and this had "nothing to do with the Church" again playing into the hands of the Hyper-Dispensationalists.
Rightly Dividing The Word of Truth is NOT of the HYPER Dividers
Rightly DIVIDING The Abrahamic Covenant, The Phenomenal FOUNDATI0N of the MYSTERY
Revelation 1:9 and the Matthew 13 Kingdom Parables
The Church of Laodicea does NOT know The Mystery given to Paul from Jesus
The Armies of Heaven - The Wedding Supper of the Lamb - One in Israel
Anytime over the years whenever I get "extreme" push back I find the subject to be a "stronghold" of the enemy - a sacred cow = RELIGION vs DOCTRINE.
Do your own research and you'll find the vast majority of scholars claim this scripture refers to Jesus Christ as the child. That this scripture has nothing to do with the Rapture but only a reference to Israel and Jesus Christ and of course no reference to the Jewish Remnant or the Tribulation Saints.
I received the following question on Quora:
What does Revelation 12:1-6 mean in the Bible?
Rapture watch Signs in the Heavens Revelation 12:5 September 2017
The Church of Philadelphia will be Raptured, Receive Crowns and Reign with Christ. Which Church do you belong?
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These verses in the King James Bible describe the following events:
Context of Revelation 12:
Most important here is we must understand that Revelation Chapter 12 is stop or parenthetical pause from the sequence of chronilogical events. This is also known as a literary interlude or a flashback. We know there are about 5 of these occurences in the Book of Revelation:
- Instances where there are flashbacks or literary interludes:
Revelation 7: This chapter serves as an interlude between the sixth and seventh seals, presenting a vision of the 144,000 sealed servants of God and a great multitude in white robes.
Revelation 10-11: Here, we have another interlude between the sixth and seventh trumpets. This section includes the appearance of a mighty angel with a little book and the account of the two witnesses.
Revelation 12: This chapter is often seen as a flashback. It describes the vision of the woman and the dragon, recounting events from the past, such as the war in heaven and the birth of the male child WHICH I DESCRIBE HERE...
Revelation 13: This chapter, though continuing from Chapter 12, also provides background information on the two beasts (one from the sea and one from the earth), which is crucial for understanding later events.
Revelation 17-18: These chapters serve as a detailed interlude focusing on the judgment of Babylon the Great, the mother of prostitutes and abominations of the earth.
Revelation 20: This chapter includes a flashback to the binding of Satan for a thousand years before moving forward to the final judgment and the new heaven and new earth.
Of course, we understand that in Chapter 12 we are in the Middle of the 7 YEAR Tribulation as we understand that the Book of Revelation is *mostly* in a chronologic sequence of events beginning with the 7 SEAL judgments (Revelation Chapter 6), followed by the 7 Trumpet Judgements (Revelation 8-11) and concluding with the final 7 Bowl Judgments (Revelation 16).
Note: There are 2 false teachings out there today regarding the events of the Tribulation. One being that all of the 21 Judgments take place at the same time and that the Tribulation is only 3.5 years long and not 7. I address this in these studies. I love the part in the second study whereby the man claimed God personally showed him how all the events lined up in Revelation.
Reproving Rapture Saint Eric Low YOUTUBER
The 2 Witnesses and their timeline Revelation 11:3-12 KJV
Daniel 9:27 "he" is the AC and NOT Jesus Christ:
Who is "He" in Daniel 9:27 King James Bible?
Revelation 12 has what is known as a literary interlude that reflects events that take place at the beginning of the Tribulation back in Revelation 4 and 5 the Rapture of the Church.
We also know Revelation 12 brings the reader into the middle of the Tribulation because of the events Revelation 12 describes primarily with the WOMAN fleeing persecution - Revelation 12:13-17 KJB (The woman is Israel = The Jewish Remnant in this context.) fleeing the devil into the wilderness for 1,260 days - 3.5 years.
Additionally, the Devil being cast down to earth from heaven - verse 9. This is not when he was cast out originally from the 3rd heaven which happened as referenced by Jesus in Luke 10:18, and OT Isaiah 14:12-15, Ezekiel 28:12-17 KJB, as well as Revelation 12:4 which I will talk about below.
We also understand the timeline of the 2 witnesses: See my study:
The 2 Witnesses and their timeline Revelation 11:3-12 KJV
And of course, we understand Daniel 9:27 and Jesus' warnings in Matthew 24 warnings of events and DON'T GO DOWN AND GET Your garment when you see Daniel 9:27 take place, that by the time the events described in Revelation 12 takes place we are in the middle of the Tribulation regarding the timeline of 7 years.
See more detail in my study of Understanding the END TIME TIME LINE:
Understanding the End Timeline - #Rapture #Tribulation #Millennial Reign of Christ
Verse 1: This scripture is a Prophetic Sign of End Time Events. This is a Heavenly Sign. The literal heavenly constellation of Virgo in solar conjunction while the moon is at the feet of the constellation Virgo and when twelve stars are overhead. Note: Three of the 12 stars are in fact planets. The ‘nine’ stars of the zodiac constellation Leo, plus three planets (Mercury, Venus, and Mars), will be at the head of Virgo — “on her head a crown of 12 stars”. Many - including myself - believe this constellation took place on September 23, 2017.
Verse 2: The planet Jupiter was in the center of Virgo - going through complete retrograde - was in Virgo 9 months and after September 23, Jupiter will exit Virgo to the east, past her feet. This physical celestial sign is also describing the CHURCH which came from Israel - grafted in the missing branch, in regard to the MYSTERY revealed to Paul. See Romans 11:17–25 and Galatians 4:26 and King James Bible.
Verse 3: This is a literal event of Satan taking full control of the earth through the Antichrist after the Rapture of the Church during the Tribulation. There will be ten kingdoms that will arise during the tribulation period. According to this interpretation, three of these kingdoms will be overpowered by the Antichrist, who will then assert his dominance over the remaining seven kingdoms. This interpretation is based on Revelation 17:12-13 King James Bible.
Verse 4: This verse describes the fall of Lucifer from the third heaven when he was thrown out and fell as lightning by God. Isaiah 14:12–14 and Ezekiel 28:12–18, Luke 10:18, Lucifer became Satan - Devil and took a third of the angels with him. When Jesus was born, the Devil worked through Herod to kill Jesus Christ but Joseph and Mary fled to Egypt until the death of King Herod.
Verse 5: THE RAPTURE of the Church HARPAZO’d (see “caught up” Strongs G726 unto God) before the Tribulation begins and described further in Revelation 12. This is the MYSTERY revealed and explained see The MYSTERY of the CHURCH whereas Jerusalem is our Mother Galatians 4:26, Romans 11, Ephesians 2, 3, Romans 4:16,17, Jeremiah 51:19-25, Isaiah 26:19-20, 66:7,8,9, Isaiah 50:1, Isaiah 54:1, 13, Psalm 2, Psalm 8:3-6, Micah 4:10, 2 Timothy 2:12, Jude 1:14,15, Revelation 1:6, 3:21, 5:10, 20:6 KJB. What is hilarious is most Christians are taught by their false shepherds and teachers that Revelation 12:5 is Jesus. However, Jesus was never Raptured; he ascended. Jesus never was taken up into heaven as a child and furthermore never was Jesus who is God almighty brought to the THRONE as before it. See G846 Greek Strongs “to his” throne.
Next we need to talk about the phrase “man child” man (G730 arsen male) child (G5207 Uihos neuter meaning children of God male or female See Matthew 5:9, 8:12) = sons of Abraham aka Human children offspring. )
Jesus was the son of man but was not of the offspring of Joseph (from sperm) nor conceived in the ovum (egg) of Mary but the womb. See my detailed study on this in
https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2022/09/he-that-hath-seen-me-hath-seen-father.html
Also when John describes the Child later in verse 5 we see the word G5043 which is Teknon (children of God for humans not for Jesus Christ. Note: Teknon was used over 90 times in the New Testament and only once for Jesus was when his mother mistakenly called him Teknon Son.
Luke, chapter 2, verses 48-49 in the King James Version (KJV):
"And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?"
This scene takes place when Jesus, at the age of twelve, stayed behind in Jerusalem while his parents, Mary and Joseph, were returning home after the Feast of the Passover. When they realized he was missing, they found him in the temple, discussing with the teachers. Mary expressed her worry, and Jesus responded by indicating that he was fulfilling his divine mission.
Finally, we know from Isaiah 54:1,13, The woman gives birth “before her pain.
See this in studying Isaiah 54:1,13, 66:7-9 and Micah 4:10 KJB also in regard to a Nation (PEOPLE - church) born in one day and AT ONCE bringing forth MANY children in the context of Galatians 4:26, Romans 4:16, Isaiah 66:7-9 with Isaiah 54:1,13 and Micah 4:10 when compared to Revelation 12:5 it is very clear this man child can not be Jesus but rather the Church.
We see the MYSTERY clearly identified here.
This also is the perfect type and shadow of the woman - Israel going into the time of JACOB’S TROUBLE after the Rapture of the church. Also see my studies in 2 Thessalonians 2,2,3 KJB and the Biblical Time Line.
Of course we understand that the woman ISRAEL that escapes will tragically only be 1/3 of the Jews. See Zechariah 13:9, Romans 9, Micah 12:2, etc.
Time to take a hard look at 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3, 7 KJV #Rapture #AntiChrist #EndTimes
Understanding the End Timeline - #Rapture #Tribulation #Millennial Reign of Christ
I explain much more in my studies in the links provided.
Another major problem many Christians and Scholars have with Revelation 12 is they believe it is impossible for God to use a “parenthetical set aside” otherwise known as a “literary interlude” in which the sequential events of Revelation bring Revelation Chapter 12 in the middle of the Tribulation. Yes, we realize that in Revelation chapter 12 we are in the middle of the Tribulation and that the Rapture of the church takes place BEFORE the Tribulation. However, just as there are numerous pauses of literary interlude here in Chapter 12 The Rapture and the Fall of Satan are discussed and then we pick up in verse 6 of Revelation 12 with the events that happen to the Jewish Remnant and the Tribulation Saints.
Verses 6, 13 - 17 describe the events of the Jewish Remnant. We have multiple parallel scriptures including the old testament prophets in Isaiah 10:22, 11:9-11, 50:1, Jeremiah 11:14, Zechariah 13:9, Micah 2:12.
Verses 7-10 Describe the events of Satan being cast out of the 3rd Heaven and now waging war against the Tribulation Saints and the Jewish Remnant. Satan will literally possess the Antichrist causing great destruction on earth.
Firmament of Genesis 1:6, GAP theory The Earth is a Globe
Verse 11; This verse describes the terrible blood shed and martyrdom of the Tribulation Saints. Revelation 6:9-11, 7:13, 13:7-14, 14:12, 20:4.
Notes:
The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible contains several instances where major events were proclaimed by signs in the stars, planets, or heavens. Here are a few notable examples:
The Star of Bethlehem:
Matthew 2:1-2:
The Sun Standing Still:
Joshua 10:12-14:
Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.
The Darkening of the Sun and Moon:
Joel 2:30-31:
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
The Sign of Jonah:
Matthew 12:38-40:
Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
These passages highlight significant events where signs in the heavens played a key role in Biblical narratives, according to the KJV Bible.
The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible contains several references to constellations and celestial bodies. Here are some passages that describe them:
Job 9:9:
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
Job 38:31-33:
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
Amos 5:8:
Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.
These passages mention some of the known constellations, like Orion and Pleiades, and highlight the wonders of the heavens as part of God's creation.
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