Time to talk About WHY God has us IN This World that we are NOT OF... #doctrinematters #discipleship #sanctification
Preface:
I needed to share these notes I made following my fellowship and Bible Study with Brother Cameron to share with the Saints the importance of us LIVING in this Fallen World that we ARE NOT OF this World. This as I point out below unlocked and answered a question asked of our daughter over one year ago. See below.
The enemy through the KINGDOM Builders and Hyper-Dispensationalists wants believers to give up and either LOOK up to heaven - literal 3rd Heaven - and not consider any scripture pointed out in Revelation or the essential prophecies related to our rule with Jesus Christ. On the other side of this perverse coin, the enemy wants the church to believe the Bible does not consider anything of this world a part of our growth and God's requirement and purpose for us ON and IN This World but NEVER "OF" this world.
Deuteronomy 30:12
“It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?”
King James Version (KJV)
Ephesians 2:6
“And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:”
King James Version (KJV)
Essential Background Studies:
The Tale of 2 Christians - Jacob and Esau; and the temptation to be as gods
The Tale of 2 Christians #Philadelphia vs #Laodicea #Spiritual Warfare (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
In conversation and fellowship in our Bible Study, Brother Cameron was used by the Lord to COMPLETELY ANSWER our daughter's QUESTION FOR THE DAY that was written over a year ago.
Important Note: About 2 years ago our young daughter beginning in the 5th Grade would write a QUESTION for The Day on small White Board in our Kitchen.
She would expect my wife and I to write an answer. We would and then afterwards she would write in a new question.
It is no coincidence that she wrote the above question over a year ago and I had written, "According to God's Word this world is a waste of time."
HOWEVER,
During our Bible study today, when Brother Cameron revelaed how important this world is to a child of God for God's ETERNAL PLAN, I was CONVICTED and had PERFECT RECALL to look at my daugher's white board question that had been sitting there for over a year.
I jumped up and changed it immediately.
"Forsake worldly pursuits; live to fulfill God's eternal purpose."
kjv still small voice
The phrase "still small voice" is famously associated with the account of Elijah encountering God on Mount Horeb. It comes from 1 Kings 19:12 (KJV):
"And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice."
"forsake worldly pursuits; live to fulfill god's eternal purpose kjv scripture to back up
Here are some KJV scriptures that support the phrase:
Matthew 6:33 (KJV): "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
This verse emphasizes prioritizing God's purpose over worldly pursuits.
Colossians 3:2 (KJV): "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth."
Paul reminds believers to focus on eternal, spiritual matters rather than earthly desires.
1 John 2:15-17 (KJV): "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."
These verses affirm the transient nature of worldly pursuits and the eternal value of fulfilling God's will.
Romans 12:1-2 (KJV): "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
Paul encourages believers to dedicate themselves to God and resist being shaped by the values of this world.
These scriptures align beautifully with the heart of the phrase: forsaking worldly pursuits in favor of living for God's eternal purpose. I hope these verses enrich and support your thoughts!
etymology persuation
The word "persuasion" has its roots in Latin and has evolved over centuries:
It originates from the Latin word "persuādēre", which means "to advise, convince, or urge thoroughly." This word is formed from two parts:
"Per-", meaning "through" or "thoroughly."
"Suādēre", meaning "to advise, urge, or recommend."
From Latin, it passed into Old French as "persuasion", carrying a similar meaning of convincing someone to believe or act.
The word entered Middle English in the 14th century and has retained its fundamental meaning of convincing or influencing someone's thoughts, beliefs, or actions.
Today, "persuasion" encompasses not just the act of convincing but often also the art and techniques involved in influencing others. Language truly tells a story of its evolution, doesn’t it?
outstanding
Today
kjv scripture paul describes this world has a purpose in our lives in the eternal
Paul often reflects on the purpose of this world and its role in shaping our eternal lives throughout his letters in the New Testament. A key passage that might resonate with your query is found in Romans 8:18 (KJV):
"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us."
In this verse, Paul acknowledges the struggles and challenges of this earthly life, emphasizing that they serve a purpose in preparing believers for the eternal glory that awaits them.
Similarly, in 2 Corinthians 4:17-18 (KJV), he writes:
"For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."
Here, Paul speaks of life’s temporary hardships as a process that produces eternal significance and helps believers focus on the unseen, eternal realities.
Do these passages capture what you were looking for? Or would you like me to explore this topic further?
Today
kjv scripture paul describes this world has a purpose in our lives in the eternal
Paul often reflects on the purpose of this world and its role in shaping our eternal lives throughout his letters in the New Testament. A key passage that might resonate with your query is found in Romans 8:18 (KJV):
"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us."
In this verse, Paul acknowledges the struggles and challenges of this earthly life, emphasizing that they serve a purpose in preparing believers for the eternal glory that awaits them.
Similarly, in 2 Corinthians 4:17-18 (KJV), he writes:
"For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."
Here, Paul speaks of life’s temporary hardships as a process that produces eternal significance and helps believers focus on the unseen, eternal realities.
kjv paul discusses the purpose of our rewards and suffering and our striving
Paul speaks profoundly about the purpose of our rewards, suffering, and striving throughout his letters. A few passages from the King James Version highlight this theme:
1 Corinthians 9:24-25 (KJV): "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible."
Here, Paul likens our striving in faith to running a race, encouraging believers to strive for the eternal, incorruptible reward promised by God.
Romans 5:3-5 (KJV): "And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; And patience, experience; and experience, hope: And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us."
Paul explains that our suffering has a purpose—it refines us, builds patience, and ultimately produces hope that anchors us in God’s love.
Philippians 3:13-14 (KJV): "Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."
Paul emphasizes the importance of perseverance, focusing on the eternal reward in Christ rather than being weighed down by the past.
These verses illustrate how our striving and suffering serve to refine our character, deepen our faith, and ultimately prepare us to receive the eternal rewards that God has promised. Would you like to reflect on any specific passage further?
kjv paul writes this world we live makes a difference in the eternal
Paul frequently discusses how our actions, experiences, and faith in this world have eternal consequences. One powerful example is found in Galatians 6:7-8 (KJV):
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting."
Here, Paul highlights the idea that the choices we make—whether they are driven by worldly desires or spiritual devotion—have eternal ramifications. Living according to the Spirit leads to eternal life, while living for the flesh leads to corruption.
Another relevant passage is 1 Corinthians 3:12-14 (KJV):
"Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward."
In this passage, Paul uses the metaphor of building materials to describe how our earthly deeds will be tested for their eternal value. Only what is done for God and built on the foundation of Jesus Christ will endure and yield eternal rewards.
These verses reflect Paul's conviction that our lives here serve as a preparation for eternity. They encourage believers to live purposefully, knowing their actions have lasting significance. Does this bring clarity, or would you like me to explore more of Paul’s writings?
kjv Pauline epistles stating we dont learn everything we need to know in heaven but we are learning here in this world to prepare us
Paul's epistles suggest that our earthly lives serve as a preparation for eternity, where we grow in faith, character, and understanding of God's purposes. While he doesn't directly state that we "don't learn everything we need to know in heaven," he emphasizes the transformative process of this life in preparing us for the eternal. A few relevant passages:
1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV): "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."
Paul acknowledges that in this life, our understanding is limited and partial, like looking through a dim mirror. However, in eternity, we will have a clearer, fuller understanding—suggesting that this life is a phase of growth and preparation.
Romans 12:2 (KJV): "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
This underscores the transformative process believers undergo in this world, preparing their hearts and minds to align with God's will.
Philippians 1:6 (KJV): "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ."
Paul speaks of God working within us in this life, shaping and completing us as we prepare for eternity.
These passages emphasize that the process of spiritual growth and learning in this world prepares us to better understand and reflect God's glory in the eternal life to come.
"Forsake worldly pursuits; live to fulfill God's eternal purpose."
kjv still small voice
The phrase "still small voice" is famously associated with the account of Elijah encountering God on Mount Horeb. It comes from 1 Kings 19:12 (KJV):
"And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice."
"forsake worldly pursuits; live to fulfill god's eternal purpose kjv scripture to back up
Here are some KJV scriptures that support the phrase:
Matthew 6:33 (KJV): "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
This verse emphasizes prioritizing God's purpose over worldly pursuits.
Colossians 3:2 (KJV): "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth."
Paul reminds believers to focus on eternal, spiritual matters rather than earthly desires.
1 John 2:15-17 (KJV): "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."
These verses affirm the transient nature of worldly pursuits and the eternal value of fulfilling God's will.
Romans 12:1-2 (KJV): "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
Paul encourages believers to dedicate themselves to God and resist being shaped by the values of this world.
These scriptures align beautifully with the heart of the phrase: forsaking worldly pursuits in favor of living for God's eternal purpose. I hope these verses enrich and support your thoughts!
etymology persuation
The word "persuasion" has its roots in Latin and has evolved over centuries:
It originates from the Latin word "persuādēre", which means "to advise, convince, or urge thoroughly." This word is formed from two parts:
"Per-", meaning "through" or "thoroughly."
"Suādēre", meaning "to advise, urge, or recommend."
From Latin, it passed into Old French as "persuasion", carrying a similar meaning of convincing someone to believe or act.
The word entered Middle English in the 14th century and has retained its fundamental meaning of convincing or influencing someone's thoughts, beliefs, or actions.
Today, "persuasion" encompasses not just the act of convincing but often also the art and techniques involved in influencing others. Language truly tells a story of its evolution, doesn’t it?
outstanding
Today
kjv scripture paul describes this world has a purpose in our lives in the eternal
Paul often reflects on the purpose of this world and its role in shaping our eternal lives throughout his letters in the New Testament. A key passage that might resonate with your query is found in Romans 8:18 (KJV):
"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us."
In this verse, Paul acknowledges the struggles and challenges of this earthly life, emphasizing that they serve a purpose in preparing believers for the eternal glory that awaits them.
Similarly, in 2 Corinthians 4:17-18 (KJV), he writes:
"For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."
Here, Paul speaks of life’s temporary hardships as a process that produces eternal significance and helps believers focus on the unseen, eternal realities.
Do these passages capture what you were looking for? Or would you like me to explore this topic further?
Today
kjv scripture paul describes this world has a purpose in our lives in the eternal
Paul often reflects on the purpose of this world and its role in shaping our eternal lives throughout his letters in the New Testament. A key passage that might resonate with your query is found in Romans 8:18 (KJV):
"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us."
In this verse, Paul acknowledges the struggles and challenges of this earthly life, emphasizing that they serve a purpose in preparing believers for the eternal glory that awaits them.
Similarly, in 2 Corinthians 4:17-18 (KJV), he writes:
"For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."
Here, Paul speaks of life’s temporary hardships as a process that produces eternal significance and helps believers focus on the unseen, eternal realities.
kjv paul discusses the purpose of our rewards and suffering and our striving
Paul speaks profoundly about the purpose of our rewards, suffering, and striving throughout his letters. A few passages from the King James Version highlight this theme:
1 Corinthians 9:24-25 (KJV): "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible."
Here, Paul likens our striving in faith to running a race, encouraging believers to strive for the eternal, incorruptible reward promised by God.
Romans 5:3-5 (KJV): "And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; And patience, experience; and experience, hope: And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us."
Paul explains that our suffering has a purpose—it refines us, builds patience, and ultimately produces hope that anchors us in God’s love.
Philippians 3:13-14 (KJV): "Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."
Paul emphasizes the importance of perseverance, focusing on the eternal reward in Christ rather than being weighed down by the past.
These verses illustrate how our striving and suffering serve to refine our character, deepen our faith, and ultimately prepare us to receive the eternal rewards that God has promised. Would you like to reflect on any specific passage further?
kjv paul writes this world we live makes a difference in the eternal
Paul frequently discusses how our actions, experiences, and faith in this world have eternal consequences. One powerful example is found in Galatians 6:7-8 (KJV):
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting."
Here, Paul highlights the idea that the choices we make—whether they are driven by worldly desires or spiritual devotion—have eternal ramifications. Living according to the Spirit leads to eternal life, while living for the flesh leads to corruption.
Another relevant passage is 1 Corinthians 3:12-14 (KJV):
"Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward."
In this passage, Paul uses the metaphor of building materials to describe how our earthly deeds will be tested for their eternal value. Only what is done for God and built on the foundation of Jesus Christ will endure and yield eternal rewards.
These verses reflect Paul's conviction that our lives here serve as a preparation for eternity. They encourage believers to live purposefully, knowing their actions have lasting significance. Does this bring clarity, or would you like me to explore more of Paul’s writings?
kjv Pauline epistles stating we dont learn everything we need to know in heaven but we are learning here in this world to prepare us
Paul's epistles suggest that our earthly lives serve as a preparation for eternity, where we grow in faith, character, and understanding of God's purposes. While he doesn't directly state that we "don't learn everything we need to know in heaven," he emphasizes the transformative process of this life in preparing us for the eternal. A few relevant passages:
1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV): "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."
Paul acknowledges that in this life, our understanding is limited and partial, like looking through a dim mirror. However, in eternity, we will have a clearer, fuller understanding—suggesting that this life is a phase of growth and preparation.
Romans 12:2 (KJV): "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
This underscores the transformative process believers undergo in this world, preparing their hearts and minds to align with God's will.
Philippians 1:6 (KJV): "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ."
Paul speaks of God working within us in this life, shaping and completing us as we prepare for eternity.
These passages emphasize that the process of spiritual growth and learning in this world prepares us to better understand and reflect God's glory in the eternal life to come.
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