Rebuking N.T. Wright's misguided teaching of Romans 8:28
Rebuking Bishop N.T. WRIGHT for his misguided teaching of Romans 8:28.
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
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15These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
Colossians 2:8
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
King James Version (KJV)
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Romans 8:28
“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”
King James Version (KJV)
Today in these turbulent times we have an explosion of false Bible teachers on social media. They know people are leaving the pagan building operations called a church in droves.
Yesterday I came upon this article posted on Main Stream News by Bishop N.T. WRIGHT
Nicholas Thomas Wright FRSE (born 1 December 1948), known as N. T. Wright or Tom Wright, is an English New Testament scholar, Pauline theologian and Anglican bishop.
titled:
The Bible's Most Misunderstood Verse
The Bible's Most Misunderstood Verse (msn.com)
The Bible's Most Misunderstood Verse
Story by N.T. Wright •
One verse in Romans 8 is particularly well known—but usually in a misleading translation. In the pantheon of classic verses many Christians learn in childhood, not far behind John 3:16 (“God so loved the world...”) comes Romans 8:28: “All things work together for good to them that love God.”
Romans 8:28
“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”
King James Version (KJV)
We must always take the entire scripture in order to discuss it. Obviously N.T. Wright cuts it off, the most critical part of this scripture because we see the subordinate clause: to them who are THE CALLED according to his purpose," gives the meaning of the entire scripture by defining fully for whom ALL THINGS WORK FOR GOOD.
See my detailed study titled: Things don't work out for the good of the unsaved:
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A text to cling to, many people think, when things go wrong. A kind of spiritual version of “Every cloud has a silver lining,” or “Experience is what you get when you don’t get what you want.” Fellow Christians might remind each other of the verse as a way of offering comfort, consolation, and reassurance that things will all work in the end.
Except it isn’t what St Paul wrote.
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The King James version, which I just quoted and which we all learned, made it sound as though “everything,” all events in the world, had a kind of inner dynamic which would guarantee a happy outcome. But if you know the way Paul’s mind worked it feels very odd to speak of “all things” running themselves in that way. That idea belongs to the world of ancient Stoicism, not to Paul’s very Jewish way of thinking.
The verb Paul used doesn’t mean "works to", as in the King James. It means ‘works with’. (The 1952 Revised Standard Version got this right, but changed some other bits of the verse, and the idea didn’t catch on.) Paul was saying two things which the King James Version missed.
WRONG! work together does NOT mean works with.
ALL repeat all false teachers refute the King James Bible. All false teachers use a perverted Bible translation and cherry pick from the King James if it suits their false narrative and then they take it out of context or partially quote it as has happened here.
And as the serpent in the garden say that God's word doesn't really say what it says. Read John 8:42-47 KJB.
Also, N.T. Wright is lying. the word "work" in : all things work together"means exactly as stated: work (verb) all things work together for what? GOOD.
work (v.)
a fusion of Old English wyrcan (past tense worhte, past participle geworht) "prepare, perform, do, make, construct, produce; strive after" Meaning "have the expected or desired effect" is from late 14c. In the sense of succeed. Successful outcome.
First, he was saying that it's God who works "all things together for good," not that “all things” were doing it under their own steam.
True.
Second, he was explaining how God does this. Specifically, he does it in collaboration with certain people. He recruits human beings to share in his purposes in the world.
NO! LIAR! Paul is not explaining how God does with, especially in collaboration with certain people.
This idea sends shivers down some theological spines. We’ve often been warned against any idea that humans can co-operate in the work of salvation. But salvation isn't the focus of this part of Romans 8. Salvation, to be sure, remains the ultimate horizon, but this particular passage is about vocation. It’s about how we repay the debt of gratitude we owe to God (verse 12). Those who have been grasped by the gospel of Jesus, those in whose hearts the Holy Spirit has been at work, now have a specific role, a task, within God’s ongoing purposes.
WRONG! This scripture is all about our lives in Christ as Christians, telling us that even difficult times and circumstances all work FOR GOOD IF WE ARE THE CALLED (see my study) of GOD.
This makes excellent sense within the larger biblical thought-patterns. Back in Genesis—to which Paul refers frequently in Romans—humans were made to work as God’s partners in his creation-project. They were, specifically, “image-bearers”: God’s agents in reflecting His wise purposes into the world, and reflecting the praises and prayers of the world back to God.
"image bearer?" where is that in scripture King James Bible. Created in God's image? does NOT mean the same as bear His Image.
bear: verb: carry, bring forth produce. Would this be the same as Ephesians 2:6 KJB and Colossians 1:27 (we are in Christ and He is in us?
Now, in Romans 8, Paul explains how this works in practice. God knows that the present creation is “groaning together,” like a woman going into labour. These labour pains are the birth-pangs of God’s new creation. And people who have been grasped by the gospel, people who are led by the Spirit, are called to share in that “groaning”, in prayers of lament. (The Hebrew scriptures, as Paul knew well, offer plenty of guidance in how to pray that kind of prayer.)
When that Spirit-led lament is happening, as Paul explains in verses 26 and 27, God himself, who searches the hearts, will hear that groaning from the dark places of creation’s pain. And those who pray that way, even when—precisely when!—they don’t even know what to pray for, will thereby be formed, shaped, into the Jesus-pattern, the pattern of the cross, sharing the pain of the world so that the world may be redeemed. Paul says exactly that in verse 29. And they will thereby be co-operating, not indeed in the work of their own salvation, but in the larger purposes of God for his battered and bleeding creation.
This is not even close to what Romans 8:28 is saying. Read my study: All things don't work together for good for those who are not saved.
So what we might have met in Sunday School, as an apparently comforting proverb about how everything is going to pan out all right somehow, is in fact a challenging—but still also comforting —statement about Christian vocation. At the very moment when we are caught up in the unspeakable groaning of all creation, the Spirit is working in our hearts to bring us in tune with God’s loving and healing purposes. God made humans to share in his work. We are to be people of prayer at the places where the world is in pain. And in the present time this kind of lament is what prayer looks like. When we take up that calling, we are caught up in the love of God; and God is working all things together for good with those who love him.
All creation groaning has NOTHING to do with Romans 8:28. Read my study.
N.T. Wright completely misquotes Romans 8:28, then leaves out the important part of this scripture.
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That’s why, in the new edition of the New Testament for Everyone, I have translated Romans 8:28 this way: “We know, in fact, that God works all things together for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose.” It's partly also why I wrote a whole book, Into the Heart of Romans about just that one chapter of the Bible.
Of course - ALL FALSE TEACHERS FIND THEIR OWN VAIN IMAGINATION FROM THEIR CARNAL MIND WHICH IS ENMITY AGAINST GOD.
So, teachers and preachers and Sunday School leaders, do please continue to get young people to learn Romans 8:28. But please get it right. We need a new generation of people prepared to collaborate with the God of creation and new creation. We need people who learn the art, and the struggle, of prayer. Especially the prayer of puzzled lament. Not least at a time like this.
PLEASE RUN FROM THIS REPROBATE AND WOLF FALSE TEACHER.
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