Which King James Bible Version would I recommend?

 Which King James Bible Version would I recommend?


Background:

Why the King James matters and why so many attack it.  

The Foundation is The WORD OF GOD 

The Final Authority of the King James Bible


RUN AWAY from the Scofield Reference Bible (thethirdheaventraveler.com)


Modern Bible translations are satanic:

https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2018/10/modern-bible-translations-are-satanic.html

The History of the King James Bible.  Why it is the FINAL AUTHORITY of God's Word:


The True History of the King James Bible - all modern Bible Translations are Satanic (thethirdheaventraveler.com)



Why the King James Bible uses ONLY BEGOTTEN and NOT only Son.


Ridiculous KJV Bible Corrections - John 3:16, Only Begotten (av1611.com)

Quote:

"John 3:16 is quoted more than any other verse in the Bible, at least by Christians and other church-goers. There may be no verse that is more frequently perverted than this one, but most people still know the full verse as presented by the KJV. Why then, is it so hard to find the word 'begotten' in other versions? The word in question is 'monogenes'. This is a compound of two words monos and genes, the latter being drawn from the verb genao, which means to beget or cause to be produced. Monos means only or single, as is clear by its many appearances in English, such as monotony, monopoly, monotone, etc. Genao has come into the English language as well in words like generation, genesis, genes, generate, and so forth. The two words together mean only-begotten! "

Dr. John Hinton


The spirit of TRUTH and the spirit of ERROR. Doctrine Matters (thethirdheaventraveler.com)


Doctrine is: Learning The Teaching of the Word of God (thethirdheaventraveler.com)


https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2021/10/jesus-hates-nicolaitans.html


https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2022/04/understand-bible-from-workman-approved.html


Doctrine of Balaam:




The King James detractors always repeat worn out reasons the King James Bible is not accurate, or the FINAL AUTHORITY of God's word and they use the Hate and Division word saying that we KING JAMES ONLY are a cult and cause division and strife in the church.

YES, WE DO BECAUSE JESUS DID NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT A SWORD AND THE WORD OF GOD IS SHARPER THAN ANY 2-EDGED SWORD THAT PIERCES AND DIVIDES ASUNDER SOUL FROM SPIRIT.


Matthew 10:34

“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”

King James Version (KJV)


Hebrews 4:12 KJB

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


WE DO NOT COMPROMISE WITH SIN BUT EXPOSE IT.


Ephesians 5:11

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”

King James Version (KJV)


King James Bibles I use and recommend:

Note: As long as you find a KING JAMES BIBLE 1769 - today called the Standard Translation - it really comes down to personal preferences.   

Note:  I would not recommend the 1900 Revisions. See further in this study. 

Thanks to my amazing Brother in Christ  Cameron Moshfegh from Switzerland.


Here's a KING JAMES BIBLE site I've used


 I personally use and love the Thomas Nelson King James Bible Red Letter Edition in my study.  This is my main reference source in my study and teaching. 

 I also have a KJV Study Bible printed in 2011 Barbour Publishing, based on the 1769 that I use from time to time to check references and to find the context for historical background. 

Note:  Be careful with any commentary in the King James Study bibles.  Just as in the misuse of the Strongs Concordance, it is very easy to get off track as I've found commentary that is not correct.  

I have the 1611 with the ASV Authorized Version whenever contemplating the historical reference to a word for example the Middle English to Early Modern English use of suffixes "eth," "est" etc.  And by the way, the suffixes really matter as they express the superlative among other things. The most compelling was in my study of John 21, "Peter do you love me?"

But for the most part, because of the old printing press issues and significant spelling, grammar, syntax, and vowel changes to name a few in the English language from 1611 to 1769, we King James Bible users will use the 1769 version.   

Note: As part of this study, I'm compelled (personally - not telling anyone they should) purchase the 




Here is an example of the actual 1611 to the 

1611 KJV Bible

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“These things haue I written vnto you that beleeue on the Name of the Sonne of God, that ye may know, that ye haue eternall life, and that yee may beleeue on the Name of the Sonne of God.”



1769 Reference:

1 John 5:13 (KJV)  




UNDERSTANDING THE Difference between EARLY Modern English and Modern English; i.e,  1611 English compared to 1769 English.

See below in this study regarding the REPROBATES who try to tell you the King James Bible is loaded with thousands upon thousands of errors.  I respond in red letters to the most egregious and provide links of solid King James Apologists that easily refute these ridiculous claims.  

I'd offer the same argument atheists use in their vain attempt to say the Bible is full of errors based on the different accounts in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  But in reality when examined by forensic experts, IF all the Gospels matched perfectly it would be fraudulent. 

I'm fully aware that Present Day English evolves continually and what is considered Modern English is now looked upon as archaic. Just as the classical music is so much richer in its content compared to today's music, language was no different.

The extreme changes in grammar - imagine inflecting nouns (the German influence) in 4 cases and in singular and plural. 

Noun Declension


Note: Inflections are modifying the word as in conjugation of verbs:  To Be:  I am, You are, They are, etc.   .   Sample:

In standard Old English, adjectives, nouns, pronouns, and verbs were fully inflected. Nouns were inflected for four cases (nominative, genitive, dative, and accusative) in singular and plural. Five nouns of first kinship—faeder, mōdor, brōthor, sweostor, and dohtor (“father,” “mother,” “brother,” “sister,” and “daughter,” respectively)—had their own set of inflections. There were 25 nouns such as mon, men (“man,” “men”) with mutated, or umlauted, stems. Adjectives had strong and weak declensions, the strong showing a mixture of noun and pronoun endings and the weak following the pattern of weak nouns. Personal, possessive, demonstrative, interrogative, indefinite, and relative pronouns had full inflections. The pronouns of the 1st and 2nd persons still had distinctive dual forms:

Also, the verb conjugation changed dramatically, but linguists believe the major shift was the vowel changes.

Study the Great VOWEL Shift




English Prepositions in the History of English Grammar Writing

David Weber


Weber, David. “English Prepositions in the History of English Grammar Writing.” AAA: Arbeiten Aus Anglistik Und Amerikanistik 37, no. 2 (2012): 227–43. http://www.jstor.org/stable/43025829.



Meech, Sanford Brown. “Early Application of Latin Grammar to English.” PMLA 50, no. 4 (1935): 1012–32. https://doi.org/10.2307/458105.


the word preposition comes from the Latin verb praepōnō, which means “put before.” This is because a preposition usually goes before its noun!

In Latin, the object of the preposition will be in either the ablative case or the accusative case. There are some general rules for when Latin prepositions take which case, and I will explain them below.

In Greek also heavily influenced in the English language, more than 150,000 words, the grammar is also influenced through Latin as I mention above. 

Explanation of how conjugation/declension:



Nominative, accusative, dative and genitive are all grammatical cases.

They vary in function in different languages.

Here is what they look like in English:

nominative - subject

e.g. I ate some pie.

Here, I would be in the nominative since it is I that was doing the verb (eating).

accusative - direct object

e.g. Do you have money?

Here, money would be in the accusative since it is the pet that the verb is being done to- the pet is owned by the person.

dative - indirect object

e.g. I bought a horse for my friend.

Here, the dative is 'for my friend'. The reason why this is not in the accusative is that I am buying a horse (the direct object in this sentence), rather than my friend.

genitive - possession

e.g. The boy's balloon is gone.

This case is easier to notice since the word itself usually changes. "'s" is added to the nominative word, so 'the boy -> the boy's'. Personal pronouns also change (e.g.he, she, it -> his, her, its).

The Syntax was also quite different, note:

According to the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust, Early Modern English (EME) is the language that Shakespeare wrote, and it is different from the English we speak today, which is called Modern English. The major differences between EME and Modern English are in vocabulary, grammar, and pronunciation. EME has many words that are no longer used today, such as “thou,” “thee,” and “hath.” The grammar of EME is also different from Modern English. For example, in EME, the word order of a sentence was more flexible than it is today.

Regarding the 1900 King James translation.  


I had been vaguely aware of a 1900 edition and had on occasion used the online careference, mistakenly never taking the time to investigate.

As my 3rd reference I have used King James online references like the 1900 pure oxford KJV. 


Known as:

PURE CAMBRIDGE EDITION


God's TIMING

God's timing is amazing, because the very day I was asked what King James Bible I recommended, I received the following Email from an amazing Brother in Christ, Cameron  Moshfegh from Switzerland.

 As follows:   I quote:


"Which edition of the King James Bible?

I am sure that it is the King James Bible. However, there are different editions and I am not sure yet which one is right.

I wanted to order the following KJB:
https://www.thekjvstore.com/kjv-large-print-wide-margin-text-bible/
and noticed that they write:

“1 John 5:8 now uses a lower case "s" following the Pure Cambridge Edition text.”
This KJB is published by Church Bible Publishers (https://churchbiblepublishers.com/ ) and uses the so called “Pure Cambridge Edition Text” of the KJB, which is further elaborated on the website of Matthew Verschuur:
http://www.bibleprotector.com/

A pdf of the KJB with the “Pure Cambridge Edition Text” can be downloaded here:

http://www.bibleprotector.com/KJB-PCE-MINION.pdf
and the points that distinguish this edition:

www.bibleprotector.com/blog/?p=801

I find that capital or lower case “s” for S/spirit in 1 John 5:8 is quite an important question, and I am unsure now which one is right.

I also found the following article on your website where you used 1 John 5:8 in an argument against the Trinity (there are many other passages of course for this as presented in your latest posts):

https://www.thethirdheaventraveler.com/2021/05/trinity-is-pagan-practice-of-polytheism.html

This is what Matthew Vershuur writes about the word “spirit” lower case, including 1 John 5:8:

http://www.bibleprotector.com/blog/?p=397

I will be very grateful for your help in this issue as this is quite fundamental.


(Cameron's BACKGROUND/TESTIMONY)


(I was) saved very recently on September 24, 2023 (believing that Jesus Christ died at the cross for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the Scripture).


I am a Swiss citizen and live in Zurich Switzerland. Currently I’m working as a low-level security guard, but my background is in the natural sciences, with a PhD degree in stem cell biology, followed by a Postdoc and junior group leader/senior scientist position.
 My work was mostly basic science and focused on mouse embryonic stem cells (never human embryonic stem cells) and human adult stem cells (see attached CV). In short, the events that led me here were:

- My contract with the university ending right in the middle of covid (May 31, 2020),

- followed by 2 years of unsuccessful job applications and not wanting to become a burden for society.

- Realizing that in the academic world scientific integrity is punished, while career success mostly results from the selection of certain personality traits.

- Loss of trust in the academic world and the biopharmaceutical industry during covid and especially with the covid vaccines.

However, I am grateful for the job as a security guard, and my attitude is that every job is a job worth doing well. My employer has noticed and appreciates this.

At this current security job, I encountered a Christian who became very interested in talking to me about the Bible and Jesus Christ with the hope that I may too be saved.
 He had been through very rough things in life, and this gave things a gravity that kept me interested in talking with him. We talked many times but for me it was always like hitting a brick wall when it came to believing.
I was someone who completely rationalized everything in life, including myself. A person who rationalizes everything cannot believe in anything. 
This is a very empty and purposeless state to be in. I was in that state."

END QUOTE

You can imagine how surprised I was and actually embarrassed because after I began research Brother Cameron's find, I now know and must share that the 1900 PURE King James is basically another mild, benign flavor of the NEW KING JAMES BIBLE.  As I write this and post this video, IF ANYONE has evidence to the contrary please let me know as soon as possible.

I have contacted my dear mentor and staunch King James Defender Dr. John Hinton a brilliant linguist in Greek and Hebrew and the transition of the English language. 

 God is so good, because the very day I had someone ask me for a recommendation, I learned from a brother in Christ - the same day - that we should be very wary of the 1900 editions. 

I double checked to verify but it seems tiny so-called purification corrections are perverted. Look at 1 John 5:8 as an example: Capital S vs small s for the Holy Spirit. 

You may find this difficult to believe, but the same day I was asked to recommend what King James Bible version I used, I got the following comment from my dear Brother in Christ from Switzerland.

This dear Brother in Christ from Switzerland who is in a deep study on this very subject. 

Some BACKGROUND of what happened in the end of the 18th Century:

In 1900 things got ugly which if you think about it, 1880 was when Hort and Wescott the Cambridge VATICAN hirelings came up with the perverted vaticanus and sinaticus from alexandria giving us the catholic NIV and now we have the ESV NASB and even the NEW King James which is completely perverted.

How did this happen?  In my research I found that the Vatican finally brought down the Church of England in the ECUMENTIAL relentless non stop attack against the King James Bible as we know WESCOTT and HORT.  And the "PURE" King James translation.

This all stemmed mostly from the OXFORD MOVEMENT

Oxford Movement


Oxford Movement - Wikipedia


In a NUTSHELL  The Vatican wore down the Protestant Church



See more detailed notes below on why I would stay away from the 1900 PURE Cambridge Edition.  

In summary.  I'm eternally thankful for Brother Cameron for bringing this to my attention.

 The 1900 Cambridge Edition is another trick of the enemy to detract from the King James Bible by insinuating it needs to be corrected and purified from more errors. 

In short Brother Cameron's concerns are absolutely correct.  Stay away from this 1900 PURE Edition. His discernment and professional background, including your education has served this dear Brother well.  Here is a sample of what I will bring up regarding the PROPER NOUN and CAPITALIZATION. 



The King James Bible used capital letters to set the divine name apart from the common English noun lord. In the 1611 KJV,

There are different reasons why we use capital letters in the Bible, depending on the word and the context. Here are some possible explanations:

 biblica.com



With the development of the printing press in Europe and England capitalization of initial letters and proper nouns became more regularized, perhaps partly to distinguish new sentences in a time where punctuation remained sparse and irregularly used. By the era of Early Modern English, with the influence of continental printing practices after the English Restoration in 1660, printing began to favor more and more capitalization of nouns following German typography. 

1 John 5:8 (KJV)

8

And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.




Romans 8:16  (KJV)

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Proper nouns are always capitalized in English, no matter where they fall in a sentence. Proper nouns are specific names for a particular person, place, or thing. They are one-of-a-kind entities,* like specific people, cities or landmarks. Common nouns, on the other hand, refer to a general concept or thing and are only capitalized at the beginning of a sentence.


THE SPIRIT - The is a definite article meaning ONLY ONE

Ephesians 4:4

“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;”

King James Version (KJV)


There is only one Spirit this does NOT include our spirit when we were born - from creation Genesis 1:26,27, 2:7; 5:1,2 KJB. 1 Thessalonians 5:23. We are created in the IMAGE of JESUS CHRIST (we have hands, feet, face) and after His LIKENESS - comprised of BODY SOUL SPIRIT. There are NOT 3 of us walking around. And there are NOT 3 gods of the Trinity. The Trinity is PAGAN POLYTHEISM. The Godhead is BIBLICAL and NO they are NOT the same.

Defending Godhead VS Trinity using 1 John 5:7 KJV (thethirdheaventraveler.com)

1 Corinthians 6:17

“But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.”

King James Version (KJV)



Entity *  entity (n.)

1590s, "being," from Late Latin entitatem (nominative entitas), from ens (genitive entis) "a thing,"


Entity Oxford English Dictionary page 877:  That which constitutes the BEING of a THING.  (Repeat:  A  THING - NOT A PERSON). 



Oxford English Dictionary page 1376:  IMAGE:  APPLIED TO A PERSON, REPRESENTATION OF A PERSON.


PERSON:  Oxford English Dictionary page 2140:   PERSONAGE:  AN IMAGE OF A MAN OR WOMAN. A PERSON:  Personate: That of the nature of a PERSON BODIED IN A PERSON. (Oxford Dictionary page 2141. 


Colossians 1:15 KJB



Colossians 2:8,9 KJB



Personage:   MASK  Religion: used as the Trinity in C200 by Tertullian .

The use did not arrive in logical order


See detailed study on the Trinity is PAGAN Polytheism BAAL Worship The Godhead is Biblical and NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

LINK


Tertullian the BAAL Worshipper of Carthage by way of the Caanites loved Greek Stoic Philosophy and created the Trinity in 200 AD.  Colossians 1:8 KJB. 


What this REPROBATE did from his mentor PHILO was personate the Holy Spirit from the ESSENCE OF a BEING and made a PERSONATED the Holy Spirit (and Also the Father) as  BEING, PERSON BODY.


Personate here in context literally means: To counterfeit, feign or masquerade the Person of Jesus Christ to a being that is SPIRIT and not a body, person, man.   See full definition of Personate in the Oxford English Dictionary page 2141.


Personate the nature of Jesus Christ into BODIES PLURAL instead of the ONE PERSON alone of the Godhead. 


This battle raged throughout the age of Christianity.  We see after the King James Bible was published there was a raging debate in 1612 BREREWOOD Language and Religion  “To hold Christ in union with two natures NOT personated.”*


*In my personal digital library, I have the “Enquiries Touching the Diversity of Languages and Religious,Through the Chief Parts of the World?  Edward Brerewood


It all comes down to Christology.  The study and identity of Jesus Christ.

Christology 

Person of Christ

See also: Prosopon, Hypostatic union, and Trinity


Council of Chalcedon 

Dr. John Hinton’s commentary on 1 John 5:6-8 (What perverted modern day so called Bible scholars refer to as the Johhannine Comma (1 John 5:7)

Critical Note:  Dr. Hinton does not consider the Trintiy as 3 SEPARATE PERSONS but the Biblical Godhead of which Jesus Christ is the ONLY PERSON visible IMAGE of the invisible God who is SPIRIT

Authorized Version Defence Manuscripts of The Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) – King James Bible Believers Website (kjv-asia.com)


Before we look at some of the chicanery of the new version scam artists, let us briefly look at the accusation that the verse was only found in a margin of a text is false. Michael Maynard summarized a list of manuscripts that did not omit the verse, including: “at least four Old Latin manuscripts, over eight Church Fathers (including Cyprian who died A.D. 258), four Syriac editions, Slavic and Armenian manuscripts, over 600 distinct editions of the Textus Receptus from 1522 to 1881, 18 pre-Lutheran Bibles, and thousands of Vulgate manuscripts. Among Greek manuscripts which do omit this verse, 97% are late manuscripts, dated from the 10th century and later.”1 So much for only a very few very late manuscripts. We can see that the verse’s omission is based on something other than manuscript evidence. Much more can be said on the issue, but so as not to go beyond a few pages in this issue, I will save it for another time. Let us now look at how some of the popular modern versions have brushed away the verse that offends them so much.

In 1604, at the request of King James I of England, representatives from the Church of England and leading English Puritans gathered together to discuss issues affecting the church in their day. Among those items for consideration was whether God would have them undertake the creation of a new Bible for the English-speaking world. King James approved plans for a new translation, and work began in 1607.

Nearly 50 of the day’s finest scholars, all from the Church of England, were organized into six groups for the task. Using the Bishop’s Bible of 1568 as the basis for this revision, the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew and the New Testament from Greek. The completed work was then peer-reviewed before being sent to bishops and other church leaders for their examination, and ultimately to King James for his approval. 

In 1611, the King James Version Bible, also known as the Authorized Version, was published. Because of the printing technology available at the time, various misprints, variations in spelling, and other inconsistencies were common in early editions. Therefore, subsequent updates were necessary in 1613, 1629, and 1638. But the revisions made at Cambridge in 1762 and at Oxford in 1769 standardized the text, ensuring that the King James Version would remain immensely readable for generations to come.


Thanks to Brother Cameron's study and research, I will definitely stay clear of the 1900 PURE.


While doing this research, I'm appalled at the ignorance and pride of that Matthew Verschuur of  VICTORY FAITH CENTRE

Seriously he has major doctrinal errors including his understanding of Matthew 24   QUOTE:

The Bible says, “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” (Matthew 24:14). For the Gospel to be understood by nations, it needed to be translated. The Bible shows that it should be entirely translated and made known to all nations, “But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made

14. CONCLUSION All true Christians must lay aside use of any other version, doctrine or varying edition of the King James Bible, since there is only one which is exactly perfect. The Pure Cambridge Edition is correct to the very letter, and it is fully God’s will in English. " End Quote.


And again in Psalm 12

and Psalm  12  purified 7 times which was done during the committee review of the King James Translators at Cambridge, Oxford and Westminster.  Dr. Grady (The Final Authority) goes into this point. 

  The Pure Cambridge Edition is the final form of the Word of God for the whole world in the last days, “But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.” (1 Peter 1:25). It is an earthly “volume of the book” (see Hebrews 10:7) that answers directly (textually and conceptually) to the Word in Heaven.  The Pure Cambridge Edition is reliable, accurate and perfect to the very letter, “

Perhaps Matthew Verschuur's  most egregious and outrageous hubris is his thinking he knows better than the King James Translators that the SPIRIT - Holy Spirit is not being spoken of here in 1 John 5:8:

Here's his quote:

"In 1 John 5:6 the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of truth, bearing witness of the truth, but in 1 John 5:8, this witness is spiritual, received and known in the heart (like assurance, I know that I am born again, and can perceive by my conscience what is right).

All these examples show the distinctions of how the word “spirit” is so used, and this then explains what happened in Numbers 11:25, 29 when what was of Moses was tapped into by others. Now, of course, we know it was the Holy Ghost, but it was talking too about the specific gifts or attributes Moses had. He was a prophet, so the partakers of his spirit prophesied.

Thus, the usage of the word “spirit” has a lot to do with the Holy Ghost connection to the inner man."



HOW TO KNOW THE PURE CAMBRIDGE EDITION OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE

 It is important to have the correct, perfect and final text of the King  James Bible, since there are correctors (e.g. publishers) who  ve changed some aspects of King James Bible texts. The final form of the King James Bible is the Pure Cambridge Edition (circa 1900), which conforms to the following:

  1. "or Sheba" not "and Sheba" in Joshua 19:2 The cities within their lot are here named. Beersheba, or Sheba, for these names seem to refer to the same place, is put first. Ziklag, which we read of in David's story, is one of them. What course they took to enlarge their borders and make room for themselves we find 1 Chron 4 39,
  2. "sin" not "sins" in 2 Chronicles 33:19  sins correct
  3. "Spirit of God" not "spirit of God" in Job 33:4 s correct
  4. "whom ye" not "whom he" in Jeremiah 34:16    who ye in 1769
  5. "Spirit of God" not "spirit of God" in Ezekiel 11:24 Spirit in 1764. 
  6. "flieth" not "fleeth" in Nahum 3:16 fly does not mean float
  7. "Spirit" not "spirit" in Matthew 4:1  Spirit in 1769
  8. "further" not "farther" in Matthew 26:39 farther correct
  9. "bewrayeth" not "betrayeth" in Matthew 26:73 Bewrayeth in  1769
  10. "Spirit" not "spirit" in Mark 1:12  Spirit in 1769
  11. "spirit" not "Spirit" in Acts 11:28 WRONG
  12. "spirit" not "Spirit" in 1 John 5:8  WRONG


God did not transport the heavenly volume of the book to Earth, but gave the very same words on Earth by inspiration, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God” (2 Timothy 3:16a). T

Of course, variations must have existed, and errors in certain copies, but not enough to have entirely replaced the existence of a true reading (i.e. there would always be somewhere the true, God-given reading, discernible by true Christians). Thus, if there were copying errors in some of the early copies of Paul’s writings, the Spirit was able to work despite these, and certainly ensured that the Word would endure. 

THE PURE CAMBRIDGE EDITION: THE FINAL KING JAMES BIBLE Matthew Verschuur              VICTORY FAITH CENTRE INC.     Published 2006  Copyright © Matthew Verschuur

Addressing the REPROBATES who support the perverted translations but pick apart the King James Bible.

These prey on the feeble minded who do not study.

Without understanding linguistics as my mentor Dr. Hinton and others like Dr. Grady and Dr. Gipp, the extreme changes from 1611 from the printing technology and spelling and grammar language change DO NOT CHANGE the meaning of the word.

EXAMPLE:  In middle English the noun man was changed depending on its use depending on its use as a subject, direct object, indirect object, 

The King James Bible Only CRITICS always single out the King James Bible and they love to boast the following examples:

The 24,000 Changes in the AV Since 1611 to 1769

Without knowledge, this demonic bait and switch deception will lead the captive into the PIT.

This is why we must STUDY.

The American Bible Society, which publishes the KJV, documented about 24,000 revisional changes from 1611 to 1769, mostly spelling but also additions and deletions of phrases, changes of word meanings, grammatical forms, tenses, gender, numbers and capitalizations! Dr James D Price, in his 2006 book “King James Onlyism: A New Sect”, Appendix A, reproduces 600 of these changes that have some degree of significance; some represent moderni­zation of vocabulary or grammar; some represent correction of discrepancies in earlier editions; some represent the introduction of new discrepancies not in earlier editions: -





"Joshua 3:11 in the 1611 is an appositive. It shows the the Arc of the Covenant is the Lord Himself. The 1769 shows possessiveness, meaning the Arc of the Covenant belongs to the Lord, they are NOT the same doctrine."

LIAR.  This is an absolute Lie!  The truth is the ARK is NOT God!  The 1769 King James bible has it correct in modern English grammar.

An appositive noun or noun phrase follows another noun or noun phrase in apposition to it; that is, it provides information that further identifies or defines it.

 Behold, the Arke of the Couenant, euen the Lord of all the earth, passeth ouer before you, into Iordan.  1611

11 Behold, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth passeth over before you into Jordan.  1769

Study the Preposition OF and its use to define the part to the whole used in modern English which clarifies the same meaning as in the 1611.



More Changes Between the 1611 and the 1769 Editions of the KJV | A Salted Faith (rickbeckman.org)


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Rick Beckman Commentary: quote:


KJV-Onlyism is a divisive tradition full of more holes than a bowl of Cheerios. May the Lord open the eyes and ears of all those trapped by this stronghold, just as He did for me.

Here are some more changes between the 1611 and the 1769 editions of the KJV. You can see that the changes in some instances affect the meaning of the context quite significantly!

Liar!

In each of the following examples below, we see the grammar, syntax, print, spelling changes from Early Modern English to Modern English.   Pay paticular attention to my notes above regarding the pronoun, noun inflections.

Deuteronomy 26:1 — “which the Lord giueth” vs. “which the LORD thy God giveth”

Joshua 13:29 — “tribe of Manasseh, by” vs. “tribe of the children of Manasseh by”

Ruth 3:15 — “he went into the citie” vs. “she went into the city”

Psalm 69:32 — “seeke good” vs. “seek God”

Jeremiah 49:1 — “inherit God” vs. “inherit Gad”

Matthew 16:16 — “Thou art Christ” vs. “Thou art the Christ”

Mark 10:18 — “There is no man good” vs. “there is none good” (note that now “there is” is marked as being added by the translators for clarity)

1 Corinthians 4:9 — “approued to death” vs. “appointed to death”

 Note: 1 Corinthians 4:9: In 1611 approved meant doomed, but in the 1700's the word approved in the context of 1 Corinthians 4:9 meant to be appointed, which is exactly what the Greek word epithanatios means.   See Oxford English Dictionary: Page 105  Approved meant "convicted" which is now obsolete.   Prescribe, DECREE Ordain (doomed). 



All of these examples are purely changes of the Early Modern English to Modern English and also taking into consideration the printing at the time of the 1611 printing.

Here's another piece of work: This Reprobate makes claim after claim of so called significant errors in the King James Bible.  However, when I spent the time to check, I found nothing of what he claims:

A few glaring examples:  He claims the word "than" was changed from the 1611 to "then" and says these words DO NOT MEAN THE SAME.  

Study this out for yourself in the Oxford English Dictionary page 3275. THAN & THEN meant the same thing - had same meaning in Middle English into Early Modern English BUT they are distinctly different in 1769 up to today. 

Another Example, he blasts 1 Corinthians 12:28 KJB 1611 helpes in government  changed to helps, government in 1769.  Study how the prepositions changed in the English Language and how the 1769 matches the GREEK (there is no preposition between the 2 nouns. helps G484 governments G2941. 



https://books.google.com/books?id=2kQbBAAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT99&dq=riplinger+1611+kjv+vs+1900+kjv&hl=en&source=gb_mobile_entity#v=onepage&q=riplinger%201611%20kjv%20vs%201900%20kjv&f=false

I do NOT agree with this assessment of the 1900 KJV


https://www.biblesanity.org/versionhistory.htm


The author states: "

  • Article - King James Exclusive The Legitmacy of exclusive use of the King James Bible

  • Article - KJV Revisions since 1611 (pdf) In short, they're mostly typos and none revise the translation.

  • KJV 1900 - Pure Cambridge Edition (KJVPCE) - It used to be that there were two primary versions of the KJV Bible, the Oxford 1769, used by Thomas Nelson (and many others) has been the standard version, at least in the U.S., and the Cambridge 1873, published by Cambridge University Press, popularly used in Europe. Essentially, the differences between the two are very minor revisions comprised of spellings, captialization, etc., not variations in the text. Recently (2013?), the KJV 1900 has emmerged, and (unfortunately) has been named the "Pure Cambridge Edition".

    As far as I can tell, This 'new/not-new' edit-version is distributed by Faithlife (Logos developer/parent), is an extremely minor revision of one or more Cambridge University Press edition(s) published "circa 1900-1970s," and is significant primarily as the latest standard form of Electronic KJV text used by Logos software. To date, I have NOT been able to confirm the publication information for this edition, and the (very short) revision list I have seen includes only 12 items; a few spelling and capitalization changes, one instance of changing an 'and' to 'or', and one instance of changing a plural noun to a single noun. My Take-away is that the KJV 1900, a.k.a. KJVPCE, aka Pure Cambridge Edition, is not a divergent revision, but is a trustworthy 'normal' KJV text with no discernable distinctions, in terms of use and reading.

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